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    feels kinda like that at the moment ... there's a harness that starts at the driver side firewall, grows to the size of a adolescent rattle snake, weaves it's way under and through the front end, then winds up on the driver side firewall, presumably heading to the ECM.

    My first guess was 10 pounds. 1/2 of it is 20 pounds. I got ... bitchy, I'll admit it... trying to get it out of the front end. This car has been crashed so the front end stuff isn't exactly where it should be all the time. Okay, no problem. Carbide bit on the grinder = cutoff wheel. Amazingly good at it too. Cut the a/c out at the same time. Noisy, effective.

    So the bitch kitty scores first blood and I just yanked it's spinal column / CNS out. How much is copper these days? I have 35 pounds of it just from the headlight/abs/starter harnesses. F* U kitteh. I'll have your heart next.

    /edit - to explain the first blood - I'm paper toweled over the fingers at the moment, which is why I'm in here. The sheet metal and I had a disagreement right before I went primal.
    Last edited by Beagle; April 22nd, 2012 at 12:56 PM.
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    I remember pulling one of those harnesses out of an LSC - ended up cutting the car up to get it out in one piece, they're huge!

    With everything you're pulling out of this one it might be lighter than a stocker even with the 460

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    Quote Originally Posted by racingsnake440 View Post
    I remember pulling one of those harnesses out of an LSC - ended up cutting the car up to get it out in one piece, they're huge!

    With everything you're pulling out of this one it might be lighter than a stocker even with the 460
    That's the dream! I'm keeping track of junk, I'm actually trying to get it to lose about 400 pounds. It might make it. There is insane extra weight in this car, they say like 3850 pounds. I want it down to 3600 with me in it. Monica says "yeah, it'll probably make it if you stop drinking beer, eating bread and cheese, and fried foods.

    Life without cold beer, cheese sammiches, and chicken wings? EFF THAT!

    The heater core engine side extraction through the fan box is next. I thought there might be about 50 pounds of copper in this thing and I think I missed it by about half.
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    I don't believe any of it until I see pics.

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    red x?

    hmm...




    hmmmmm.
    Last edited by Beagle; April 24th, 2012 at 05:02 AM.
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    Epic weight removal continues - sometimes - you've got to show a car who's boss, especially after it bites you. Hope those sheetmetal cuts heal quick.

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    Question - maybe for myself... Cylinder heads and camshafts and bears. Oh my.

    D3ve, 8.8:1 , mildish port job. Bowl blended, mostly exhaust short turn work (where they respond according to "them") and flat tappet hydraulic 214*/224* cam (20.00, new) , this is the dirt bag approach, cheap and paid for.

    D0ve, 10.4:1 , needs porting, roller solid 236/242* cam (1000.00 new but that is springs, retainers, timing chain, lifters, cam) ... probably worth another 75 or more HP.

    I'm having a tough time with the justification but I don't think it will hit my target with the D3ve's. The D0ve's at over 10:1 with a mildish cam would want E85 probably. What to do ... what to do. Pay the electric, buy the missus a lovely present for her special birthday, give her a roller cam? Maybe she won't hit me with it.

    I've got a conversation going with a guy on 460ford.com for a Torker II. It's the lowest intake I can think of and the guys there seem to like it. I had bought a Torker which is deemed poop by the same guys, did that before I had a clear plan. I'm thinking I want to move the torque curve up a few hundred to a thousand RPM. I've been running it through a simulator and wallace racing ET predict-o-rator and I can't see it getting where I want it with the small cam / low compression setup. It's making me insane. I spent a lot of time on the stocker heads, I'm actually very curious to see how well they do (or not.)

    The D0ve's are better exhaust, smaller chamber, 300+ cfm as cast intake but the compression is pushing it. If I have to go with E85 it's gonna make fueling a real PITA depending on what Freiburger comes up with for a route. Also, if I go with e85, the compression is actually kinda low in my mind. The sim software says about 200 cranking psi, really hairy edge for pump gas and a 30 year old combustion chamber design. It will have about .040 - .045 quench (zero deck, .041 gasket) and I'm tempted to go this way with 93 octane and see how much timing I have to pull. I have a lot of hours in the D3ve's though. Dangit!

    Open to suggestions...

    /more edit - according to the numbers, this cat-ass-trophy is going to be a little buzzy on the road... like 2800 at 70 buzzy so I'm not all that worried about it pinging on the highway. Octane booster and go? The other thing about the D0ve's is they are easy to convert to stud mount rockers and I have some comp roller tip rockers if I go that way. The D3ve / cam combo probably doesn't need to be converted.

    /even more edit - there's an HX55 clone on the shelf here. Largish sized turbocharger. The 8.8:1 D3ve's would be easy to get a few more cc's out of the chamber and get it down closer to 8:1 , intercool the turbo, EFI... this is why my sh*t never gets finished. I'm having wicked deja vu right now, I'm pretty sure I've posted this before. Losing it.
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    Remember - you can make changes later, and unexpected expenses will come up, there's still a lot of building to do, and the clock is ticking.

    KISS.

    Mill the D3 a little to get some more compression? If you really hate the cam after the car is running and driving, you can change it.

    For that matter - if you score a great deal on a set of DOVE or aluminum heads at some point in the future - you can swap them on then... AFTER the car is running, driving, and baselined.

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    D3VEs and the turbo if you get time, N20 if you don't!

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