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  • JeffMcKC
    Legendary BangShifter
    • Oct 2007
    • 7024

    #1

    Pinion Angle

    Thought this may help some of you guys understand pinion angle a bit better, and why you cant just cancel them out like a passanger car like some think


    http://www.flickr.com/photos/simpkinsfamily/7387713670/
    2007 SBN/A Drag Week Winner & First only SBN/A Car in the 9's Till 2012
    First to run in the .90s .80s and .70's in SBN/A
    2012 SSBN/A Drag Week Winner First in the 9.60's/ 9.67 @ 139 1.42 60'
    2013 SSBN/A Drag Week, Lets quit sand bagging, and let it rip!
  • milner351
    No Life Outside BangShift.com
    • Nov 2007
    • 16033

    #2
    Great Video - thanks for sharing, that does help to put things in perspective.
    There's always something new to learn.

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    • Barry Donovan
      No Life Outside BangShift.com
      • Jul 2009
      • 16928

      #3
      thanks for vid.

      I had subaru with 3 broken angles...every time I got geometry correct the rear diff was nose down by an inch or more. Drove me nuts.

      this explains that it is indeed correct.
      (even a subaru with the diff nose clamped needs angles down)
      Previously boxer3main
      the death rate and fairy tales cannot kill the nature left behind.

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      • DanStokes
        Ancient LSR Guy
        • Oct 2007
        • 28665

        #4
        Thinking this car needs a pinion snubber ala Mopar! Dang that thing moves a LOT.

        Dan

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        • JeffMcKC
          Legendary BangShifter
          • Oct 2007
          • 7024

          #5
          They all move a lot on leaf springs. The shocks are pretty loose, but it gives you a idea of why so much angle is needed.
          2007 SBN/A Drag Week Winner & First only SBN/A Car in the 9's Till 2012
          First to run in the .90s .80s and .70's in SBN/A
          2012 SSBN/A Drag Week Winner First in the 9.60's/ 9.67 @ 139 1.42 60'
          2013 SSBN/A Drag Week, Lets quit sand bagging, and let it rip!

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          • oj
            Hero BangShifter
            • Jan 2011
            • 270

            #6
            Man, what a video! That thing went over center and is lifting the rear end! Is that your car?
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            • milner351
              No Life Outside BangShift.com
              • Nov 2007
              • 16033

              #7
              I will certainly have that in mind when I set up the 8.8 in the back of the falcon, I still haven't welded the spring perches to the tubes.
              There's always something new to learn.

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              • JeffMcKC
                Legendary BangShifter
                • Oct 2007
                • 7024

                #8
                Originally posted by oj View Post
                Man, what a video! That thing went over center and is lifting the rear end! Is that your car?
                Nope not my car....... LOL

                I just thought some guys might gain from it. When people start throwing around numbers, that guy has what we would call 4* down in it. I always tell people with a automatic start with 4* or 5* down and work your way back, he does have a multi leaf spring and its not a split mono also if you look, the seperation has a lot to do with it on this style. Like I said just thought a dynamic picture of it helps as you notice the "Hit" then it backs off, is why you cant end up at 0* because it will invert at the start.
                2007 SBN/A Drag Week Winner & First only SBN/A Car in the 9's Till 2012
                First to run in the .90s .80s and .70's in SBN/A
                2012 SSBN/A Drag Week Winner First in the 9.60's/ 9.67 @ 139 1.42 60'
                2013 SSBN/A Drag Week, Lets quit sand bagging, and let it rip!

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                • Dan Barlow
                  ZF6 Bangshifter
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 10599

                  #9
                  I'd hate to be the guy with the camera holding on for dear life, trying to capture that for all of us while you sat in the comfy seat having all the fun.
                  Previously HoosierL98GTA

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                  • Dignlif
                    Superhero BangShifter
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 919

                    #10
                    Thanks Jeff, that is an incredible visual explanation of what 1000 words didn't clarify for me.
                    Rich

                    Drag Week Survivor 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013 - 2nd Place - Pro Street N/A, 2017

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                    • ls7gto
                      Legendary BangShifter
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 5000

                      #11
                      so Jeff where would you start with a stick box, A-body 4 link with heim ends ( solids).
                      Reading , Pa
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                      Ban low performance drivers not high performance cars .

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                      • Bamfster
                        Lord God King BangShifter
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 10445

                        #12
                        Man that climbs a bunch more than I thought it would, the visual definitely helps!
                        Whiskey for my men ... and beer for their horses!

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                        • JeffMcKC
                          Legendary BangShifter
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 7024

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ls7gto View Post
                          so Jeff where would you start with a stick box, A-body 4 link with heim ends ( solids).

                          3* down to start, back it off to 2* if its very stiff in the back, if not 2.5 is where I run mine and it hits pretty hard. Remember seperation will change it as the ride height changes
                          Last edited by JeffMcKC; June 18, 2012, 05:44 PM.
                          2007 SBN/A Drag Week Winner & First only SBN/A Car in the 9's Till 2012
                          First to run in the .90s .80s and .70's in SBN/A
                          2012 SSBN/A Drag Week Winner First in the 9.60's/ 9.67 @ 139 1.42 60'
                          2013 SSBN/A Drag Week, Lets quit sand bagging, and let it rip!

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                          • TC
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 11805

                            #14
                            Originally posted by JeffMcKC View Post
                            3* down to start, back it off to 2* if its very stiff in the back, if not 2.5 is where I run mine and it hits pretty hard. Remember seperation will change it as the ride height changes
                            Thanks for the starting point.......

                            But I kind of thought this would be a "how to".............

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                            • CDMBill
                              Legendary BangShifter
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 4357

                              #15
                              It was.
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