Limiting factor for RPMs?

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  • JeffMcKC
    Legendary BangShifter
    • Oct 2007
    • 7024

    #271
    TC your not putting forth any "Theory" your spouting "Ideas", there is a huge difference. In most cases your Idea's are just plain wrong.
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    • TC
      Banned
      • Nov 2007
      • 11805

      #272
      Originally posted by JeffMcKC View Post
      TC your not putting forth any "Theory" your spouting "Ideas", there is a huge difference. In most cases your Idea's are just plain wrong.
      Jeff as much as I value you opinion, I'm going to have to take the Guy at Reher-Morrison's opinion on the subject...... At a certain point stroke will become a limiting factor.......

      I will also stand on my point that if you are racing a class that limits Cubic Inches, that going with a short stroke, big bore is a better way to go for many of the reasons I state here.........
      Last edited by TC; July 10, 2012, 01:30 PM.

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      • dieselgeek
        Legendary BangShifter
        • Oct 2007
        • 9809

        #273
        Originally posted by JeffMcKC View Post
        TC your not putting forth any "Theory" your spouting "Ideas", there is a huge difference. In most cases your Idea's are just plain wrong.
        Amen to that.

        Unintelligent quips based on misunderstanding are not "Theories" - and are not "out of the box" thinking. Other words whose definitions TC might consider trying to learn:
        FACT
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        • dieselgeek
          Legendary BangShifter
          • Oct 2007
          • 9809

          #274
          Originally posted by TC View Post
          Jeff as much as I value you opinion, I'm going to have to take the Guy at Reher-Morrison's opinion on the subject...... At a certain point stroke will become a limiting factor.......
          You mean the guy who you quoted who's article was totally, completely NOT what you were claiming at the time?

          I will also stand on my point that if you are racing a class that limits Cubic Inches, that going with a short stroke, big bore is a better way to go for many of the reasons I state here.........
          You never made that point until you read it in someone else's work. It's not YOUR point, it's someone else's. Stop changing your story in the middle of a post only to try not looking like an absolute buffoon.

          Everyone here knows that you were and are talking straight out of your cornhole. Nobody takes you seriously here anymore.
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          • CDMBill
            Legendary BangShifter
            • Oct 2007
            • 4357

            #275
            Originally posted by squirrel View Post
            You can RPM the big engine too....
            Yes you can and its scary even at the mid range level stuff I'm doing. by the Wallace Racing calculator cited elsewhere My piston speed, and BTW this at its fastest point some where in the middle of the stroke (okay exactly in the middle based on the formula) is 5625 Ft/min. 4.560 x 4.5 @ 7500 for those wh0 want to check stuff.

            As Jeff noted earlier quoting Mike Jones its torque at the tire that counts, and its work overtime that accelerates the vehicle. And as someone else inferred, speed cost money, how fast do you want to go? And there is an oft mentioned corollary to that which lists the goals that everyone has for their engine project: big power, high reliability and low cost; pick any two.
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            • OldMachinist
              Superhero BangShifter
              • Oct 2011
              • 449

              #276
              Originally posted by TC View Post
              Your just stating what I already know, you didn't think I didn't do the math did you??......
              So what RPM are you going to allegedly turn your benchrace turbo engine? It was 8000 a while back is it going to be 10000 now? I notice when I try to pin you down to something you ignore it or change the subject.
              Don't know about Randal but I don't think you did the math or even knew how.
              What valves, retainers, locks, springs, pushrods and rocker arms are you using? If you don't know look it up or call your guru before you answer as this will help us understand your engine.

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              • OldMachinist
                Superhero BangShifter
                • Oct 2011
                • 449

                #277
                Originally posted by TC View Post
                Jeff as much as I value you opinion, I'm going to have to take the Guy at Reher-Morrison's opinion on the subject...... At a certain point stroke will become a limiting factor.......

                I will also stand on my point that if you are racing a class that limits Cubic Inches, that going with a short stroke, big bore is a better way to go for many of the reasons I state here.........
                What is the certain point on your benchrace turbo engine? As above what RPM is this going to turn?
                I have been referring to your benchrace turbo engine. From this it looks like you are going class racing. What class with what sanctioning body?

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                • TC
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 11805

                  #278
                  Originally posted by OldMachinist View Post
                  What is the certain point on your benchrace turbo engine? As above what RPM is this going to turn?
                  I have been referring to your benchrace turbo engine. From this it looks like you are going class racing. What class with what sanctioning body?
                  I'm building a street car........ (it's a car I want to run dragweek with)

                  As for RPM whatever it takes.........

                  In my build power is all a matter of boost, realistically 7500 to 8000.........
                  Last edited by TC; July 10, 2012, 03:47 PM.

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                  • OldMachinist
                    Superhero BangShifter
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 449

                    #279
                    Thanks for finally answering a straight question. Now everyone on here sees how pointless this whole discussion has been.

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                    • jcharliem
                      Superhero BangShifter
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 1148

                      #280
                      Originally posted by TC View Post
                      ...I will also stand on my point that if you are racing a class that limits Cubic Inches, that going with a short stroke, big bore is a better way to go for many of the reasons I state here...
                      And what reason(s) is that?... it will "rpm faster?" LOL.
                      Nitrous, baby!!...

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                      • TC
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 11805

                        #281
                        Originally posted by OldMachinist View Post
                        Thanks for finally answering a straight question. Now everyone on here sees how pointless this whole discussion has been.
                        Pointless probably, informative, very much so.........

                        And you think this is bad, just wait until we have the Cam Spec thread on this build........

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                        • dieselgeek
                          Legendary BangShifter
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 9809

                          #282
                          Originally posted by TC View Post
                          Pointless probably, informative, very much so.........

                          And you think this is bad, just wait until we have the Cam Spec thread on this build........
                          how about we have more discussion on "this build" when it's done, sometime in the next 3 decades? this thread wasn't informative, this thread was you trying to change your story for 29 pages. You may think it's fun but everyone else here thinks it's stupid.
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                          • TC
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 11805

                            #283
                            Originally posted by dieselgeek View Post
                            how about we have more discussion on "this build" when it's done, sometime in the next 3 decades? this thread wasn't informative, this thread was you trying to change your story for 29 pages. You may think it's fun but everyone else here thinks it's stupid.
                            That is how you see it, but then your a closed minded individual........ But then I wouldn't expect you to understand the type of information I got out of it since you have no experience in engine building..........

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                            • dieselgeek
                              Legendary BangShifter
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 9809

                              #284
                              Originally posted by TC View Post
                              That is how you see it, but then your a closed minded individual........ But then I wouldn't expect you to understand the type of information I got out of it since you have no experience in engine building..........
                              Trust me, the vast majority here see this entire thread as a complete and utter waste of time. Entirely your idea.

                              Experience comes after "success." How about you post up a video of your project cars that feature engines YOU built? As you probably guessed, I don't believe there's a single one. But you could shut me up by posting, instead of what you're "gonna do" what you "already did." Nobody would hassle you when you try to act the expert if you could show something for all this work you claim you did.

                              So how about it - SHOW US!
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                              • TC
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 11805

                                #285
                                Originally posted by dieselgeek View Post
                                Trust me, the vast majority here see this entire thread as a complete and utter waste of time. Entirely your idea.
                                That is your opinion, others may be smarter.........
                                Last edited by TC; July 11, 2012, 09:33 AM.

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