Limiting factor for RPMs?

[CDMBill]

I didn't mean to start the EM thing over again.

However, I strongly suspect that Roush/Yates, Sean Hyland or others who know DOHC could make EM power levels without boost. The problem is that it probably takes $50,000 to $100,000 in development costs to win EM, which thus far, no one has been willing to spend to prove a point about 4-valve DOHC engines. The insularity is partly a factor of the time and money it takes to compete effectively.

I also suspect . . . from my armchair . . . that intake manifold selection for the DOHCs remains a barrier. Given that the dyno air intake is in the traditional "top" position, wouldn't a front or side TB present a material disadvantage? It looks like all of the competitive EFI dudes are running relatively short runner intakes with a top-mount TB . . . a style of intake that doesn't much exist in unmodified, off-the-shelf form for most DOHCs.

I think the reason less complex, the aftermarket for the DOHC Fords is focused on power adders, and while the Coyote may be changing that, it's new and it'll take awhile before anyone will take on the EMC challenge for an almost non-existant market. Most, not all, EMC competitors seem to be there to market their expertise or sell particular parts. I have no idea if it's actually worth the effort, maybe Barry R. Or the Hot Heads team guys can comment on that.

[Bob Holmes]

Hot Heads bagged a two month expose on early Hemis in Hot Rod. And our engine is going to be the subject of an article in Engine Masters in the September edition. I can't wait to see it.

Now, that was not expected although we all hope for some ink. Bob Walker, the owner of HHRR, is in this for the same reason that the rest of us are, to have fun, enjoy the camaraderie of the contestants, test our knowledge and theories about building the Hemi, and kick some late model ass with our OLD '54 Hemi. LOL

I think the vast majority of competitors may have started out to market their respective skills and engine platforms. What keeps them coming back time after time is the camaraderie and the challenge.

[TC]

Hot Heads bagged a two month expose on early Hemis in Hot Rod. And our engine is going to be the subject of an article in Engine Masters in the September edition. I can't wait to see it.

Now, that was not expected although we all hope for some ink. Bob Walker, the owner of HHRR, is in this for the same reason that the rest of us are, to have fun, enjoy the camaraderie of the contestants, test our knowledge and theories about building the Hemi, and kick some late model ass with our OLD '54 Hemi. LOL

I think the vast majority of competitors may have started out to market their respective skills and engine platforms. What keeps them coming back time after time is the camaraderie and the challenge.

When did the EMC start??, you know how many years ago......

[dieselgeek]

not much marketing benefit for me personally other than it's an achievement, and it pushed me to become a much better tuner with much more experience. We've taken this engine to an amazing level of development, and every single dyno pull is another data point we can use.

[TC]

Like always I wish you guys the best of luck...

[Bob Holmes]

When did the EMC start??, you know how many years ago......

2002 was the first year. Won by Joe Sherman with a SBC, I believe.

[CDMBill]

That engine seems quaint compared to some of the stuff we've seen recently.

[Bob Holmes]

He won over $100k with that engine, today the payouts are under $15k.

[TC]

He won over $100k with that engine, today the payouts are under $15k.

Wow, would that even pay for the engine??

[Bob Holmes]

No.