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  • TC
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    • Nov 2007
    • 11805

    #1

    Did Someone Say Electric A/C Compressor........

    This could be a neat alternative to A/C'ing your car when their is no room to mount a A/C compressor that is belt driven........ I guess there's one thing a Prius is good for..... I wonder what kind of voltage it needs??.....



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  • squirrel
    Benevolent Ruler of the Universe
    • Nov 2007
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    #2
    probably very high voltage. They have that so they don't have to start the engine to keep the car cool. My mom's honda hybrid gets worse mileage in summer because of that.
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    • Barry Donovan
      No Life Outside BangShift.com
      • Jul 2009
      • 16928

      #3
      very high voltage?

      not even trucks can go past 24v with 120 feet of steel rails.

      bouncy little cars on little rubber grommets in their own electrified self made planet..the footprint must be tiny.

      I bet that is just what I am looking for.

      if a prius does anyhting for history, I hope killing the 700 ton fred flintstone a/c compressor is one of them.

      edit:

      201 volt form an invertor.

      I knew this worked. I am just going to rip apart a house a/c and go from there one of these days.
      Last edited by Barry Donovan; June 27, 2012, 07:53 AM.
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      • milner351
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        • Nov 2007
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        #4
        The orange conduit signifies high voltage - I believe most hybrids are running at 42 volts (some golf carts too) for the motor / genertator system. There is still a 12v battery and all the usual electrical system is 12v.
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        • squirrel
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          • Nov 2007
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          #5
          The high voltage system in a Prius is 273 volts.
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          • TC
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            • Nov 2007
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            #6
            Originally posted by squirrel View Post
            The high voltage system in a Prius is 273 volts.
            201v, 3 phase, ac current....... or at least that is what the video I just looked at said.......

            Oh well it was a thought.......

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            • squirrel
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              • Nov 2007
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              #7
              Did you ever notice that it seems that AC compressors take more energy to turn, than an alternator does? Think about it.
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              • moparmaniac07
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                • Mar 2009
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                #8
                Originally posted by squirrel View Post
                Did you ever notice that it seems that AC compressors take more energy to turn, than an alternator does? Think about it.
                Are you turning the alternator with or without a load? Was it dyno proven, or just spinning by hand? I would think that putting a load on would increase the power necessary to turn it. I have no idea about an AC compressor though.
                Last edited by moparmaniac07; June 27, 2012, 02:44 PM.

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                • TC
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by squirrel View Post
                  Did you ever notice that it seems that AC compressors take more energy to turn, than an alternator does? Think about it.
                  So could you use a 12v to 240v inverter with a single phase to 3 phase adapter to make it work??, then you just need an extra battery or two and a bigger alternator........

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                  • squirrel
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                    • Nov 2007
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                    #10
                    I am talking about having a load on both of them.

                    You'd need another, larger alternator just to power the AC compressor. So you might as well just have the AC compressor driven by the belt.

                    The prius has a huge alternator/motor between the engine and transmission. It also has a very large capacity battery pack. It makes sense to use an electric compressor in that car, because it allows them to not start the gasoline engine to run the AC when the car is stopped in traffic, it can just run off the battery. When you are cruising, the engine runs and recharges the battery, as well as powering the car. When you decelerate, the battery is recharged even more because it acts like a regenerative brake.
                    Last edited by squirrel; June 27, 2012, 04:40 PM.
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                    • TC
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                      • Nov 2007
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                      #11
                      How about mounting stators on the inside of the hat on the Disk brakes, so that as you go down the road you produce electricity to charge the batteries and power the A/C compressor??.........

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                      • squirrel
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                        • Nov 2007
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                        #12
                        I guess you could if you wanted. It would be a lot easier to just hang the compressor on the front of the engine, with a belt driving it.
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                        • TC
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by squirrel View Post
                          I guess you could if you wanted. It would be a lot easier to just hang the compressor on the front of the engine, with a belt driving it.

                          Come on Jim where's you since of adventure??....... But ya, that would be easier......

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                          • dieselgeek
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                            • Oct 2007
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                            #14
                            screw the AC compressor, is there an electric vacuum pump on a Prius that might serve a better hotrodding purpose?
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