Junkyard Formula Poll

[BBR]

Get busy.

[Beagle]

600 hp 302 stock block. Brink kitty litter and a barf bag. Single turbo will get you there pretty easily with any current decent head and break most current OD transmissions pretty easily.

You don't need more than a 3.55 with a 460. 500 easy ("low" RPM) HP with a hydraulic, put your spray on that. Run a 30" tire down the road. It won't take a ton of converter because ... it's at least a 466" motor.

.02

your stash sounds like mine. haha.

Hundreds of pounds is bullshit - aluminum heads, manual rack, no A/C and you'll be closer than you think to a fully dressed 302.

Fuel economy? We're really gonna have that discussion? Get an E40d out of a truck, and a Baumanator to control it. If they'll hold a C6 I am pretty sure it will hold an E40d.

Or - live with 3000 RPM at 70mph with a 28" tire and the 3.55's.
oh yeah, get busy.

[Bob Holmes]

Bbf, 11.50

[greenXpress]

Can't wait to see it, no matter which way it goes. Do not make the mistake I made by trying to soften the BB too much. I got some tractor weights for the trunk if you need them.

[38P]

Get busy.

I've seen the old heap in the shop more than I've seen Mrs. Outsider lately . . . .

[LAGNAF]

sounds like you are getting the info and questions you're looking for.. Also sounds like a fun project!!

I'm a small block guy myself, so that'd be my choice.. But I don't do things the easy way most of the time, or I would just take my 383 outa my 53 and put it in something aerodynamic and go helluva lot faster!!

oh yea......... GET TO WORK on that "project", you only have about 3 months before you need to start driving/testing!!

[38P]

600 hp 302 stock block. Brink kitty litter and a barf bag. Single turbo will get you there pretty easily with any current decent head and break most current OD transmissions pretty easily.

What gives me some hope is that MMFF ran 10.60s with their stock long block "Hooligan Hot Rod" back in 2005 or so (but that was in a lighter Mustang GT) . . . and I found an overdrive transmission rated at 700 h.p. with a warranty at a not-too-horrible price.

My guess is that the pre-metric 302 is going to be a tad meatier than a later roller 5.0., and if the revs and sudden shocks are kept down, and the tune is nice and safe, it ought to live the week on the weak side of 600. But I could be a bit too optimistic.

You don't need more than a 3.55 with a 460. 500 easy ("low" RPM) HP with a hydraulic, put your spray on that. Run a 30" tire down the road. It won't take a ton of converter because ... it's at least a 466" motor.

I was thinking a hydraulic and a tall tire for the drives (I did that back in the '70s when overdrives were scarce and I was broke) I was figuring about 470-480 "on motor" (460) with the junk iron and a big juice stick.

.02

your stash sounds like mine. haha.

Hundreds of pounds is bullshit - aluminum heads, manual rack, no A/C and you'll be closer than you think to a fully dressed 302.

Fuel economy? We're really gonna have that discussion? Get an E40d out of a truck, and a Baumanator to control it. If they'll hold a C6 I am pretty sure it will hold an E40d.

I could buy a lot of gasoline for the cost of a built E40D and a Baumanator brain box. That extra cog adds a fair amount to the price. But I have measured 'em at the JY. It'd be hammer-time on the tunnel I believe.

BBF's transmission guy has some fairly decent prices on the C6. http://www.broaderperformance.com/10-ford-c6-

Or - live with 3000 RPM at 70mph with a 28" tire and the 3.55's.
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Sort of like my old SVT Focus revs on the highway . . . with almost four times the cubes . . . .

My worry about a 3.55 is that with a 28" tall tire (I want some soft sidewalls this year to help with the hit, and 28x10-15 seems to fit on a lot of Fox Bodies I see), the engine would only be turning 5,300 to 5,500 r.p.m. in the traps (10.80 version) The 11.50 version would trap at even a lower r.p.m. (around 5,000-5,100). I'm thinking that 5,800-6,000 is more where it needs to be to balance longevity with trap speed.

[BBR]

I've seen the old heap in the shop more than I've seen Mrs. Outsider lately . . . .

Pics or shenanigans!!

[38P]

I got some tractor weights for the trunk if you need them.

Maybe hang 'em on a back bumper rack (opposite of tractor puller style) . . . .

[38P]

Pics or shenanigans!!

In person. And every time she sees me, I get sent to the showers . . . .

She says I've got to take her on a nice, planned evening out this weekend . . . without any talk about the JY build!

[Bob Holmes]

This is an endurance event, interspersed with a couple of full throttle runs every day. Lower redlines are your friend, just build accordingly.

[Russell]

I went with 11.5 SB

#1 goal show up
#2 goal finish

I would have a blast in my Crappy Capri running mid 13s, but its not in the cards this year. Maybe I should show up on Day 1 and stand out side the gate with my thumb out

[Beagle]

Broader is in my back yard and has a good local reputation. I'll be buying my parts from there pretty quick.

550 hp / 3500 pounds theoretically gets you a 10.8

5500 , 125 mph (just right for a 10.8 ) , 3.55 gear, 27" tire... look at a 255/60x15 drag radial or if you're bent on a slick 26x9.50 and 5700 in the traps.

Every Fox I know of will hold a 26x9.5 , some of them don't like a wide-ish 28" tire.

[38P]

I went with 11.5 SB

#1 goal show up
#2 goal finish

I would have a blast in my Crappy Capri running mid 13s, but its not in the cards this year. Maybe I should show up on Day 1 and stand out side the gate with my thumb out

I've done #1 and #2. And got the t-shirt. it was big fun (~37 passes worth), despite "Zexgate" . . . limited sleep . . . packing & unpacking . . . .

But missing the DD Quick 32 by a few hundredths of a second . . . not to mention that my "storebought" car got about as much "respect" as Rodney Dangerfield on a Japanese pocket bike at Sturgis . . . is certainly a motivator for "Change you can E.T. with."

(Certainly the Coyote Stock racers are hitting some relatively quick numbers that would be competitive in DD, but Mrs. Outsider vetoed hacking up a nearly new car just to prove a point)

[38P]

550 hp / 3500 pounds theoretically gets you a 10.8

5500 , 125 mph (just right for a 10.8 ) , 3.55 gear, 27" tire... look at a 255/60x15 drag radial or if you're bent on a slick 26x9.50 and 5700 in the traps.

Every Fox I know of will hold a 26x9.5 , some of them don't like a wide-ish 28" tire.

I've got to have a "fudge factor" over the dream wheel times. I'm not Grumpy Jenkins or Dyno Don (More like "Dyno-less Dumb")

And I hated the drag radials I ran last year. BBF and observations have convinced me that real slicks are the ticket to quicker, more consistent E.T.s.