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  • Dignlif
    Superhero BangShifter
    • Mar 2009
    • 919

    #1

    Removing broken stud from head

    Last Sunday my upper alternator mount setup broke a stud in the cylinder head and though we tried getting it out by drilling and using easy outs...there was no success.

    I did some searching on youtube for a solution and found this video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKlYKG2vyaA . Basically the guy goes through the steps of welding a nut to the broken stud/ bolt. I decided to try it and 5 minutes later the broken stud was out...too easy! Thanks guy with Hero voice!

    Broken stud
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    Nut sitting on sliver of threads - I saw another video that suggested superglue to hold in place if needed
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    Nut welded in place
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    Taa Daa!
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    Rich

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  • TheSilverBuick
    ALMOST Spidey !
    • Nov 2007
    • 22145

    #2
    I've heard of that too. From what I gather the heat from the welding also helps in getting the bolt loose. So double win, have something to put a wrench on and heat to help remove the bolt! Thanks for sharing this victory!
    Escaped on a technicality.

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    • BBR
      Chief Do'er
      • Nov 2007
      • 11707

      #3
      Very nice!
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      • 68scott385
        Legendary BangShifter
        • Jul 2011
        • 5773

        #4
        'at's slick'r n snot on a door knob.
        Last edited by 68scott385; June 17, 2012, 04:54 PM.
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        • OldMachinist
          Superhero BangShifter
          • Oct 2011
          • 449

          #5
          Good job! Another trick that will help is after welding the nut, while the stud is still hot melt parrifin from a candle into the threads and it helps lubricate so stud comes out easier.

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          • tardis454
            Legendary BangShifter
            • Dec 2007
            • 3614

            #6
            Originally posted by OldMachinist View Post
            Good job! Another trick that will help is after welding the nut, while the stud is still hot melt parrifin from a candle into the threads and it helps lubricate so stud comes out easier.
            Roger that, I've had success with vice grips & parafin wax.

            Welding a nut/bolt is great if you have a welder..

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            • TexasT
              BangShifter
              • Dec 2007
              • 108

              #7
              What better reason to buy a welder?




              Welding a nut on is a great way to get broke off stuff out. I used it on a turbo and several heads that I broke the exhaust manifold bolts off in. Cheaper than having the machine shop do it. Though I do use a lot of nuts.

              Rich

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              • Beagle
                "Flounder"
                • Apr 2011
                • 13804

                #8
                I'm glad to see it working! I tried that on the D3 heads because it broke 9 or so of the 16 exhaust bolts, had a couple that would flat not cooperate. It'd twist the bolt off a little further down than the weld. Some of them didn't stick the first time, I'm not much of a weldor. I tried the wax deal too. I ended up drilling and tapping several of them and I'm still not real happy with how they turned out. I'll probably end up with heli-coils in a couple or may just stud them if I have room.

                Good job!
                Last edited by Beagle; June 18, 2012, 03:33 AM.
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                • anotheridiot
                  Superhero BangShifter
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 1922

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Beagle View Post
                  I'm glad to see it working! I tried that on the D3 heads because it broke 9 or so of the 16 exhaust bolts, had a couple that would flat not cooperate. It'd twist the bolt off a little further down than the weld. Some of them didn't stick the first time, I'm not much of a weldor. I tried the wax deal too. I ended up drilling and tapping several of them and I'm still not real happy with how they turned out. I'll probably end up with heli-coils in a couple or may just stud them if I have room.

                  Good job!
                  The trick is to not get greedy. If you have the 3/16ths bolt broken down into the threads, go straight to the 5/16th drill just to find the center of the broken bolt, then use a smaller bit to start drilling thru the center to keep your 5/16ths from wobbling into the old threads.

                  Great job on this thread though. never fully understood what people were telling me til I saw your pics. I guess this is one case its good that cast iron is so hard to weld. it saves you from welding any of it together other than the nut and stud.

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                  • milner351
                    No Life Outside BangShift.com
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 16033

                    #10
                    Great news! I've had mixed luck with that technique - great to see you got it to work! antisieze it when it goes back together!
                    There's always something new to learn.

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                    • Dignlif
                      Superhero BangShifter
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 919

                      #11
                      Glad this was helpful to others.

                      It actually didn't twist off as I was removing it. The problem was that the length of the upper mount setup from the Moroso kit created a pivot point of sorts and fatigued the stud to failure (at least that's what I'm figuring). I'm going to redo it in a different way to eliminate the extreme length so I don't have to worry about it failing again.

                      I have taken to putting anti-seize on most things (thanks, good advice), naturally this was assembled before I became somewhat religious about doing that and I still forget occasionally.
                      Last edited by Dignlif; June 18, 2012, 02:08 PM.
                      Rich

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