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This BMW M4 Driver Just Showed The World Why Car Shows Have Such A Bad Standing With The General Public In One Swift Move (VIDEO)


This BMW M4 Driver Just Showed The World Why Car Shows Have Such A Bad Standing With The General Public In One Swift Move (VIDEO)

Recently the Irvine, California Cars and Coffee event came to a close, to the smoldering anger of local car enthusiasts. Legendary for the wide array of vehicles that appeared, it was also legendary for burnouts, revving and generally obnoxious behavior that car show promoters and planners have nightmares over. At every car meet and cars and coffee event I’ve ever attended there is always some kind of warning that, translated from politically correct to blunt honesty, means “Don’t act or drive like a jackass. We barely got this approved and we don’t need your stupidity helping to get it taken away.”

Apparently the driver of this BMW M4 didn’t get the memo. At a C&C held outside the Blackhawk Museum in San Francisco, the driver of the orange Beemer decided that the best way to leave the event was to give the car a good boot’s worth of throttle. On a public road. In San Francisco. In January. Ray Charles could have predicted what happened next: the BMW got tail-happy and wound up jumping a median with some excellent airtime. It’s pretty safe to say that wasn’t part of the program, and of course it ended up being caught on tape.

Bad enough, right? Nope. Bimmerpost, a BMW forum, received an explanation from the owner of the car. Here’s his take on what happened:

Hey guys,

It was my car that was involved and a mistake was made. There were no intentions of doing anything out of the norm. In fact, you’ll notice in the video that the car was going very slowly in front of the crowd. This was intentional because we’ve all watched too many YouTube videos of this sort of thing happening and wanted to make sure that nobody would get hurt should anything unexpected happen. Once the car was past the crowd the accelerator was pushed in a straight-line as I have done many times in the past when the rear snapped violently. The car was going ~30mph at that time. The car has been driven for 4700 miles and has been driven with DSC off many times including in the rain and never has the car snapped so violently just from accelerating. I chalk it up to several factors including cold temps (low 40s), cold tires and incorrect psi (more on that later) and of course driver error. More judicious use of the throttle should have been exercised. MDM mode was not used because MDM is too quick to intervene and cuts power prematurely (or maybe not).

Usually when the rear breaks loose, it does so progressively and steering correction will suffice. However, you can see in the video that the front tires are turned slightly to the right indicating opposite lock was put on the steering trying to prevent the car from doing a complete 180 however there wasn’t enough real estate to counter how violently it snapped – though admittedty the gravity of the snap required immediate full oppo lock which was misread. I’m not sure why some are saying that no steering input was made because it was – one could argue it should have been sooner but again usually a little wiggle just takes small steering input and power through not a full-on immediate opposite lock as was needed in such a big snap – to me it actually seemed like it was happening in slow-mo although the vid makes it seem like it happened so fast. As the car started to correct it became apparent that there was no way out except over the curb which is where I put on the brakes and tried to straightline the curb as much as possible to avoid hitting the curb at an angle which would cause a lot of damage and potentiality flip/roll the car.

I’ve driven many high hp rwd cars including vipers, porsches, corvettes, and formula cars and I’ve graduated from formula racing schools and have years of training in advanced car control and plenty of track time. Heck I remember day one of Formula school, half of the first day was spent on the skid pad learning how to keep a car from spinning if you lose traction. Maybe I need a refresher since it’s been awhile and I’ve been driving AWD Audis for the past few years. Some of those other RWD cars I mentioned will snap fiercely and you have to be on extremely high alert, however my experience with the M4 has been that it tends to not snap so viciously in a straight line – but this time I was wrong. I would caution anyone thinking that it can’t happen to them (count me as previously one of those) that anyone can make a mistake. I’m thankful that nobody was injured from such a mistake. Surprisingly, the car seems to be driving just fine with the only damage being the right plastic guard underneath the bumper which can be seen in the video. Surprising I know.

I mentioned earlier that I had incorrect PSI – let me explain. My PSI was low, so I inflated it a bit with a pump with an analog tire guage which of course is very imprecise compared to a digital gauge. I noticed that my right tire pressure was 1.5psi off of my left when viewing the PSI from the BMW onboard digital gauge (you can only do this while driving). However, as my car had been pulling to the right from day 1 of delivery (there’s a big thread of many complaining about that on these forums). Miraculously, the car drifted to the right to a lesser extent with the right tire PSI being slightly higher than the left and so I was playing around with the idea of keeping it that way for a short time- however I knew that I needed to put the PSI equally across both tires but I just failed to do that before going to the meet. I have no idea if unequal PSI left to right contributed to the right rear spinning so differently than the left.

Anyways, I know I’ll be ridiculed and called an idiot (and rightfully so) but I think many of you also know that I didn’t do anything intentionally out of the ordinary or unsafe. I’m not sure I was even trying to show off as acceleration happened when the car was past the crowd and it’s not like a powerslide or burnout or anything of that sort occurred.

I also think the M4 is a fine car and I have no complaints about the amount of power or torque or tire width or grip or anything. In fact, the whole reason I got the M4 is because it’s not AWD and I like the rear moving around a bit. Mistakes happen and I’ve learned a lesson – and from now on will keep DSC on when driving around because there’s too much at stake to make a mistake while driving – no matter how good or bad of a driver you are. Thanks for hearing me out. It certainly has been a humbling experience.

The first sentence gives the guy some credit. It appears that he’s going to take some kind of responsibility for driving like a dolt…so why, then did he write War and Peace to say that? Because he isn’t taking responsibility…instead he’s blaming cold temperatures, a touchy rear diff, incorrect tire pressures and overall, the car for not behaving exactly as he expected it to behave. I’ll admit that I’ve surprised myself a time or two in a car…once was on dirt and I learned that understeer was not my friend, and once was on an autocross course and I learned that the “pendulum effect” isn’t limited to Porsche 911s as I power-slid into the bushes. Fine and fair. And I want to give the driver the benefit of the doubt: once it became clear that the M4 wasn’t playing along with what he was trying to accomplish, his foot comes right out of the pedal. Like he said, it wasn’t a burnout or a drift, but a heavy dose of right foot on a straight road. But none of the excuses he gave covers the simple fact that he decided that a public street, in front of a prestigious museum, at a public event with people around, in the middle of an upper-end area of San Francisco, was the most appropriate place and time to romp on his BMW.

That kind of stupidity is why we can’t have nice things.


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29 thoughts on “This BMW M4 Driver Just Showed The World Why Car Shows Have Such A Bad Standing With The General Public In One Swift Move (VIDEO)

  1. Tedly

    Oops.

    Did he really just blame a 1.5 psi difference in tire pressure for that wreck?!

    Proof that the stereotypical BMW owner image was based on reality.

    What a douche.

  2. red hot 71

    I think he could of saved us all the time of reading this and just summed it by saying. High RPM, Low IQ…

  3. TheSilverBuick

    Hmm, I know I’m not in the driver’s seat, but that didn’t look like a crazy snap to the left. Any time my car start’s kicking out more than about a foot I let off the throttle, that’s it, and it straightens right up.

  4. Matt Cramer

    You can always spot a poorly done apology by it saying “mistakes were made” and not “I made mistakes”.

    1. hsmark

      BS! He didn’t even try to drive out of that, idiot makes stupid mistake and got caught on video.

  5. Jakob

    Let me explain one thing.I drive a e92 m3 at the Ring.
    The new M4 is not a good car.The driver dident make anything wrong.
    But Bmw did.If you where at the ring in October when Bmw was testing the car
    they have mega problem.Test drivers was so close to crash the car several time.
    Bmw have to save money so the wishbone is not made in aluminium just steel.
    The construction is to weak.Thats why this happen.

      1. jakob

        Crancuda.I hava a apartment close to the ring.I proberly have 1300 laps.
        So the information is correct.

        1. John T

          sooo…you live near the `rung, therefore your info about BMW’s is correct….what’s the bet you’re a BMW owner too? I don’t like to stereotype anybody for any reason – but BMW owners prove time and again what wankers and douches they are. Almost without exception, if there is a BMW in traffic, it will cut you off, pull out in front of you ar do something else bastardly. If you confront the owner they are always full of the same bullshit excuses as this idiot. Steel wishbones, for example…. really, Jakob? They’re the problem? Steel is weaker than aluminium, huh? How many cars (not just BMW’s) have steel wishbones????? And your theory that steel is weaker is just nonsense.

      1. Orlly

        Says the Guru Who speaks many languages properly?
        Or you are just encouraged by the fact that you are a native English speaker which, as everyone knows, entitles you to be an asshole?

    1. Tedly

      Sorry, but what happened in this video had nothing to do with the construction of the wishbones, tire psi, or anything else besides some dink attempting to show off and losing control of his car. Period.

      Whatever problems BMW may have had in testing, they were not a factor here. Stupidity was.

      1. Matt Cramer

        If the thing broke a wishbone, I’m pretty sure that guy would have blamed his crash on that in his letter (and it would be a lot shorter). But even if he did, it looks as if he broke traction before breaking anything on the suspension. Still looks like driver error.

        And I am a BMW owner myself. Please don’t make the rest of us look like pricks who think that less than perfect machinery absolves us of any sense of personal responsibility.

  6. Rob

    Another GREAT example of someone the may or may not have money, but definitely no BRAINS.

    There are a LOT out there – SCARY aka STUPID

  7. Mike

    So hes had training and driven other high powered cars? I guess he didn’t learn anything. That wasn’t a snap its a case of just not being able to handle a car at all.

  8. cyclone03

    First those front wheels must be really strong they both seemed to still have air as he drove away.

    Now not forgetting that he ran out of talent ,he went nowhere near opposite lock I’m not even sure he was at “crossed arms”.
    But lack of talent will do that.

  9. His vanity plate says DAWK

    Looks like BMW will sell to anyone,even people who cannot read or use the internet.
    BMW has lost 4% of their fourth quarter sales compared to a year ago.

  10. Adub

    I’m Certainly not taking this guy’s side at all .. I will say I have several older cars that make some nice power that I have no problem controlling .. However I decided last year to buy the new 5.O GT stang , biggest mistake I’ve ever made ! Don’t know if BMW has a similar system as ford like advance track or not but the only way you have full control of the vehicle is to pull the fuse out of the fuse box … I can also say that fighting the computer is a loosing battle and you will over steer the car .. I had a few situations that made me look like a complete fool because of Advance Trac.. don’t know if the computer stability caused this guy problems or not but I can see it happening …

  11. Dabidoh Sambone

    You’ll note that like most stereotypical BMW drivers, he failed to signal his left turn.

  12. Mopar or No Car

    Blackhawk Automotive Museum is in Danville, not San Francisco.

    If the driver was already doing “~30” as stated and then goosed it he was about to violate the speed limit by a wide margin. Definitely showboating, an epic fail and a weak set of excuses.

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