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The GM spokes person says that Pontiac has been unprofitable for the last few years. Who's fault is that? I'm sure that Bob Arnold could have sold more cars(and hence made Pontiac more money) if the styling had been more uptown instead of rebadged crap. Funny how the guys making all the marketing decisions still get big bucks(after putting out a pig of a car line), and the Bob Arnold's in the trenches get the shaft.
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Wow, I know where both those dealerships are. One of them, Mikan Pontiac -VW, is about 15 miles from me and the other dealership was on the way to my Grandmothers house when I was growing up. My Dad loved Pontiacs and we'd always stop at Arnold Pontiac on Sunday on our way back home just to look at the new cars. Sad time in the life of Pontiac. Of course I felt the same way when Oldsmobile and Plymouth were dropped. I never thought I'd see the day these cars would go by the wayside and Hummers, Escalades and Lincoln pick-up trucks would still me made. Idiot marketing people !
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Originally posted by NevrdunThe GM spokes person says that Pontiac has been unprofitable for the last few years. Who's fault is that? I'm sure that Bob Arnold could have sold more cars(and hence made Pontiac more money) if the styling had been more uptown instead of rebadged crap. Funny how the guys making all the marketing decisions still get big bucks(after putting out a pig of a car line), and the Bob Arnold's in the trenches get the shaft.BS'er formally known as Rebeldryver
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I've stated this before - but nobody at GM marketing can think or read. Its a proven fact.
The Brands at GM - Pontiac, Oldsmobile, etc have far more recognition, market presence and value than do any of the cryptic model designations thaey insist on retaining. Up into teh 50s it was a Chevy, a Pontiac, a Buick, a Cadillac with only a model or two of each. There is no reason that it could not be that way again - the Chevy is the small and cheap car, the Pontiac the sporty car, the Buick the near lux, and the Caddy the top shelf. Nothing shares a badge and they are all sold at every GM dealership.
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Originally posted by Barry_RI've stated this before - but nobody at GM marketing can think or read. Its a proven fact.
The Brands at GM - Pontiac, Oldsmobile, etc have far more recognition, market presence and value than do any of the cryptic model designations thaey insist on retaining. Up into teh 50s it was a Chevy, a Pontiac, a Buick, a Cadillac with only a model or two of each. There is no reason that it could not be that way again - the Chevy is the small and cheap car, the Pontiac the sporty car, the Buick the near lux, and the Caddy the top shelf. Nothing shares a badge and they are all sold at every GM dealership.
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Originally posted by SpiderGearsMansold quite well with grand am , bonneville and pre 04 grand prixs - trans am was greatly missed
the gto cost too much
they were turning around , but the ax fell , you know , by the car guys in the white house
GM came begging for money because they were already done. If they cannot manage themselves, guess whose going to do it for them? certainly, this was bound to happen either way. And just think - witht he Government in charge, we're keeping millions of factory workers employed!!! (99% of them in Mexico and Canada, but whose concerned about details, right?)www.realtuners.com - catch the RealTuners Radio Podcast on Youtube, Facebook, iTunes, and anywhere else podcasts are distributed!
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There is plenty of blame to go around for the state of the domestic auto industry:
Uncle Sam: Regulations and CAFE standards that mandate you must make a car that is built like a bank vault that gets 35mpg
UAW: Labor monopoly with company killers like the jobs bank and protection of unproductive, unmotivated workers.
GM: Years and years of uninspiring, low quality cars that erode their market share year after year. They helped to kill Pontiac with marketing that spoke to no one.
All of which contribute to a public who won't give good GM cars a chance but have to support a failing GM with their tax dollars.
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