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  • Friday Excuse to Go Home Early and Drink: Toyota is the Most American Car Company; Camry More Domestic than F150


  • #2
    Re: Friday Excuse to Go Home Early and Drink: Toyota is the Most American Car Co

    You're going to give Spidey a heart attack. :P

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    • #3
      Re: Friday Excuse to Go Home Early and Drink: Toyota is the Most American Car Company; Camry More Do

      Originally posted by Mr4Speed
      You're going to give Spidey a heart attack. :P
      Yep, I immediately thought the same thing. The fact that he hasn't posted yet is proof positive. ;)

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      • #4
        Re: Friday Excuse to Go Home Early and Drink: Toyota is the Most American Car Company; Camry More Do

        The premise of the cars.com "index" is flawed on a number of levels. First, sales weighting the average for particular vehicles is highly deceptive. A 99% "American car" based on domestic content (which would be virtually impossible to mass produce at the present time) would be less "American" than a 75% domestic content model sold by a foreign "invader" in mass quantities. That's just stupid.

        Secondly, the "domestic content" indexes are flawed because they typically do not account for the manufacturer's domestic and foreign "overhead" costs (e.g. engineering, design, management).

        A better gauge of the "Americanness" of a manufacturer is the type of analysis done by the Level Field Institute. For example, comparing Ford to Toyota (http://www.levelfieldinstitute.org/f...d_v_Toyota.pdf) for the most recent year completed (2008) Ford directly employed approximately 65,000 Americans, while Toyota only employed 37,000. (Economists estimate that each OEM job supports nine jobs in the local community, including parts suppliers and other support jobs

        85% of the vehicles Ford sold in America were built here in 2008. Only 46% of the vehicles Toyota sold in America were produced domestically.

        Ford had ten U.S. assembly plants to Toyota's four.

        Fords overall domestic content (e.g. the parts and materials that go into assembled vehicles)was 70%. Toyota's overall domestic content in 2008 was a paltry 41%

        Ford employed 87 Americans for every 2,500 vehicles it sold in 2008. Toyota only employed 42 Americans per 2,500 vehicles sold.


        The clear conclusion is that although Toyota may "grandstand" with a couple of popular models built in non-union "invader" assembly plants, the majority of the jobs created by Toyota's U.S. operations are still overseas. Thus it is "more American" is simply baseless propaganda.

        SO QUIT DRINKING AND GET BACK TO WORK!

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        • #5
          Re: Friday Excuse to Go Home Early and Drink: Toyota is the Most American Car Company; Camry More Do

          when it was relevent
          toyota had 10 plants in American
          GM had 10 plants too
          IN OHIO
          54 plants in the USA
          toyota needs to be legislated out out out
          funny !the car czar thinks it is agreat idea to move production to china , but not to the right to work states in the south
          fordmazda is as american as apple sushi
          eat it up yum

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          • #6
            Re: Friday Excuse to Go Home Early and Drink: Toyota is the Most American Car Company; Camry More Do

            Originally posted by SpiderGearsMan

            toyota needs to be legislated out out out
            So then we should only build and sell cars/trucks in the U.S.; the Brits only build and sell cars/trucks in England; the Germans only build and sell cars/trucks in Germany; the Japanese should only build and sell cars/trucks in Japan; etc.?

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            • #7
              Re: Friday Excuse to Go Home Early and Drink: Toyota is the Most American Car Company; Camry More Do

              yes , but since we owe the world a living ......

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