Jim Beam and Jack Daniels Leave NASCAR

[cjforumadmin]

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[Monster]

Re: Jim Beam and Jack Daniels Leave NASCAR

Uh, oh .... when those guy's pull out, things are really bad !!

.. but Jack Daniels directing marketing to China, Australia, & South Africa ?
.. and Jim Beam decides to rock out with the title sponsorship of Kid Rock's tour ?

[SpiderGearsMan]

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the fastest chicken in the south

[SpiderGearsMan]

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instead of fuel injection , lets get rid of sponsors

[Turbo Regal]

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Maybe NASCAR could get Sominex or Simmons Beautyrest Mattress to replace them as sponsors?

They would logically fit with the direction of this sport.

[BigBlockMopar]

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Wow, that kinda news would lead an entire team to start drinking... :
Well they HAVE been saying for years now Drinking and Driving don't go together

[38P]

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1. Now that's some real "Southern [Dis]comfort!"

2. Perhaps these sponsors finally sobered up and it became "Everclear" that they were wasting millions on slow cars and hapless drivers who hardly ever got on TV without crashing.

3. Maybe with "Jack" and "Jim's" trackside hospitality operations closing down, the quality of NASCAR's decisions will improve (not holding my breath) . . . .

4. If they went back to racing ACTUAL PRODUCTION-BASED STOCK CARS under a reasonable rule package, it wouldn't cost $40,000,000 a year to field a team.

5. Speaking of the Aussies, NASCAR could learn plenty from V8 Supercar racing down under.

[tiresmoke!]

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the fastest chicken in the south

"........Mothers, lock your daughters up, 'cuz that fly bunch is back in townnnn.............."

Hell, I have that one on DVD...may watch it tonight(Stroker Ace"

I'm surprised Jack&Jim stuck around this long....woulda been neat if Maker's Mark had gotten in on the deal.

[Caveman]

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Is Jim Beam sticking with Gordon for Baja? the press release didn't go near that. Or are they just abandoning NASCAR?

[realsteelfreak]

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This is just really a thought of mine, and maybe my perception, but how is Rolex ,GrandAm ,Koni and ARCA. ReMax doing ?seems like a couple of those are flourishing, Rolex sure keeps Suntrust around ,Audi TDI.
With the taxed liquor boys out maybe they will have to start running some shine again. I got 4 quarts corn ,anybody up for some real TN sippin?

[studemax]

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This is just really a thought of mine, and maybe my perception, but how is Rolex ,GrandAm ,Koni and ARCA. ReMax doing?

Rolex and Grand Am are the same series.
Perhaps you meant the American Le Mans Series?

[SpiderGearsMan]

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1. Now that's some real "Southern [Dis]comfort!"

2. Perhaps these sponsors finally sobered up and it became "Everclear" that they were wasting millions on slow cars and hapless drivers who hardly ever got on TV without crashing.

3. Maybe with "Jack" and "Jim's" trackside hospitality operations closing down, the quality of NASCAR's decisions will improve (not holding my breath) . . . .

4. If they went back to racing ACTUAL PRODUCTION-BASED STOCK CARS under a reasonable rule package, it wouldn't cost $40,000,000 a year to field a team.

5. Speaking of the Aussies, NASCAR could learn plenty from V8 Supercar racing down under.

yeah road racing is really packin them in here , the last grand american race on tv loooked like it was in an abandoned parking lot
aussie racing ? yeah , the run the LS motor down there , but road racing is not major league in the USA
dirt tracks get bigger crowds , which sprint cup should be doing

[realsteelfreak]

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This is just really a thought of mine, and maybe my perception, but how is Rolex ,GrandAm ,Koni and ARCA. ReMax doing?

Rolex and Grand Am are the same series.
Perhaps you meant the American Le Mans Series?

Grand-Am is the sanctioning body, Rolex, Koni,Ford Racing Mustang and others fall under that body. My point is that they have sponsors, maybe not mega dollar leaking like a sift sponsors ,but major title sponsors. Arca does also, and running very well, same point, and also these Arca guys are running dirt tracks twice a year, in Illinois with very little done to the cars other than some screens and bias ply dirt tires from Hoosier.
Look over the specs on Koni cars, most are production based.

[38P]

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4. If they went back to racing ACTUAL PRODUCTION-BASED STOCK CARS under a reasonable rule package, it wouldn't cost $40,000,000 a year to field a team.

5. Speaking of the Aussies, NASCAR could learn plenty from V8 Supercar racing down under.

yeah road racing is really packin them in here , the last grand american race on tv loooked like it was in an abandoned parking lot
aussie racing ? yeah , the run the LS motor down there , but road racing is not major league in the USA
dirt tracks get bigger crowds , which sprint cup should be doing

The sort of things that NASCAR could learn from V8 Supercar racing are:

1. Production-based sedans can still put on a good, close show. And the fans can relate better to race cars that are based on what they can buy.

2. Multiple races on a weekend (think short track-style heat races) are more exciting than a bunch of boring practice (Why does Speed TV waste air time on it?), single car qualfying (Yawn. Same question) and a long, overblown "A Main" event.

3. Forcing the OEMs to stay in the homologated "production" box is the best way to control costs and tighten up competition.

4. A variety of tracks (not more cookie-cutters) is good. Very good.

5. There's no valid technical reason why the driver's door cannot open now. (It's not 1950 anymore. Better latches, cages, and safety seats can portect the drivers well enough without all the "traditional" "Dukes of Hazard" theatrics)

There are lots of reasons why the "gate" for road racing isn't what it should be. (And I wasn't suggesting that NASCAR should become a road course series) On the other hand, anyone who has been to a NASCAR road race or to a well-established tradition such as Sebring can testify that Americans will watch road course events under the right circumstances.

Attendance at Grand-Am events is hardly indicative because they have a terrible TV package, minimal tradition, poor promotion, confusing class structures (the Koni Challenge cars never run in prime time) and few, if any stars known outside of the discrete and insular world of Grand-Am followers.

One should note that NASCAR Cup attendance wasn't all that great until it became a TV phenomenon in the 1980s. They used to only have about 25,000 seats at places like Bristol and Martinsville. And places like Texas World Speedway near Houston couldn't hardly give away tickets.

Dirt doesn't work on TV very well (too "dirty," ugly pictures), but NASCAR was better back when they had a few dirt shows to spice up the schedule (Before Winston brought in the "modern era" and killed the mid-week shows)

[SpiderGearsMan]

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ANY EE PROM BOX CAN bE REPROGAMMED - haha , while the car is racing , fauxcar is going to have to hire half of hewlett packard to police an efi nightmare
ROAD RACING WILL ALWAYS SUCK FROM THE PAYING CUSTOMER POINT OF VIEW
nascar even now is the most successful racing sanctioning body out there , just cause a guy like you , sitting on his couch with a remote sees something trendy on speed , does not make it the cats ass
australia has a fraction of our population , they don't have nearly the choice of racing we do , they also don't have the wealth we have - 20-30 million a year and a team of engineers to run a "backward low tech car "