NASCAR's Chase Apparently Chasing Away Fans

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600lbs actually. Ford says that their WRC car weighs in at 2800lbs race weight. Stock cars are 3400 right?

yes..
what the engine set back rule on these wonders..
out brake.. put brakes hat fit inside a 15" wheel on those "wonders and we'll see..
your talking apples and oranges..
drop the manual and 358 in one of those wrc cars and see what happens (if they'd even fit)
not taking anything away from them. watched them live once.. kool racing but it's not the same.. it be like say'n a rally car is a baja car/truck

[SpiderGearsMan]

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So gay that they can out accelerate, out brake, and out turn a stock car from here to eternity.

per their rules
betcha they can't outrun a dirt modified

[SpiderGearsMan]

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900 hp race cars need some weight to keep from flight

never saw dover downs that empty

[Brian Lohnes]

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600lbs actually. Ford says that their WRC car weighs in at 2800lbs race weight. Stock cars are 3400 right?

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So gay that they can out accelerate, out brake, and out turn a stock car from here to eternity.

weight of these wonders?
ya, take 1200lb's out of a stock car and then what..

[Brian Lohnes]

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So gay that they can out accelerate, out brake, and out turn a stock car from here to eternity.

[horsewidower]

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How about the Fords, do they count as gay imports?

[SpiderGearsMan]

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world rally has no passing , and the cars are [gay ] imports

[NITMARE]

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NASCAR is dying....all there is to it. I will go down to any dirt track on any given Saturday night and be infinitely more entertained...say what you will about the "class" of crowd if draws. AT LEAST it's still real racing without any BS. This isn't even a matter of guys with huge money ruining the sport. It's about pussy rules and regulations coupled with racing politics.

With that said is there any motorsports coverage on TV that really draws you in nowadays? I used to love watching WRC but it's now gone, NHRA coverage on ESPN does nothing for me, haven't watched a NASCAR race in 2 years....about the only thing that catches my attention is SCORE off road racing that you may seldom stumble across on HD Theatre or an NTPA event on the RFDTV.

[chryco63]

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NASCAR has become SO boring. Now I hope the SPEED channel will wake up to this and start showing more diverse programming like they used to. World Rally, nostalgia drags, Pikes Peak and similar hill climbs. The current line up of NASCAR and continuous repeats of PINKS and that boring tow truck show. COME ON SPEED CHANNEL! I pay extra to have you in my cable package and you're delivering CRAP!

Precisely the reason I'm dropping the package that includes SPEED when my subscription comes up at the end of November. I'm better off watching motorsports on YouTube.

[nesabo]

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NASCAR has become SO boring. Now I hope the SPEED channel will wake up to this and start showing more diverse programming like they used to. World Rally, nostalgia drags, Pikes Peak and similar hill climbs. The current line up of NASCAR and continuous repeats of PINKS and that boring tow truck show. COME ON SPEED CHANNEL! I pay extra to have you in my cable package and you're delivering CRAP!

If I remember right, NASCAR has ownership in Speed. Remember the show "Pit Bulls"? It was a talk show on Speed that used to point out the issues with NASCAR racing. The Frances did not like it, so they bought ownership into Speed and had the show cancelled.

[rjfscorpio711]

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NASCAR has become SO boring. Now I hope the SPEED channel will wake up to this and start showing more diverse programming like they used to. World Rally, nostalgia drags, Pikes Peak and similar hill climbs. The current line up of NASCAR and continuous repeats of PINKS and that boring tow truck show. COME ON SPEED CHANNEL! I pay extra to have you in my cable package and you're delivering CRAP!

[DR Racing]

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Funny thing the ratings are down, it was not even shown live in Canada. TSN (the Canadian sports network) who will normally have the race live, did not. Instead they showed Darts and Poker. Hmmmmm. I guess that is where the advertising money is.

[daved931]

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Four words: stock cars on dirt.

Do want.


NASCAR started to lose me with restrictor plates. Once it became a gestapo police state and I couldn't watch Tony Stewart or Kevin Harvick punch anyone my interest dropped further. Then they started in with b.s. debris cautions and crap like that to bunch the field up and the whole "car of tomorrow" thing and I dropped it all together.

I used to tune in Thursday nights for qualifying, Saturday for the Busch race and Sunday for the Cup race. Now I go to Loudon once a year with my dad so that we can spend some father/son time together. He still really enjoys it, but I'm only in it to spend time with my old man.

NASCAR was fun for a long time. Even after they got all high dollar and the barriers to entry became other-worldly in the 1980's, you could still watch DW mouth off and Earnhardt bang fenders. I remember going to Bristol back when the bottom 20 rows were still concrete steps in the side of a hill and people threw all of their beer cans down to the bottom so you had to shuffle out, knee deep in the empties. Those were the days when Earnhardt would beat the fenders off of someone's car to win (I remember him dumping Terry Labonte on the last lap to win one time). I loved watching that stuff.

Going to a race at Loudon today means spending $100 in fuel and tolls, $40 on food, $90 for a ticket and being bored to tears for the first 250 laps of a 300 lap race. In the last 8 years or so, I've branched out and started to watch or attend as many different forms of motorsport as I can (WRC, drag racing, local circle track, F1, etc).

[realsteelfreak]

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Four words: stock cars on dirt.

A.k.a ARCA twice a year