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  • master of the port

    found the origin of my name

    "donndubhain"

    this means don of bane
    master of the port.. or saint of .
    donibane

    sa
    int john according to wiki.

    this is at the spanish border of southwest france..took some deciphering
    a town called saint-jean-de-luz today

    I was called a basque origin of surname
    they also gave the name for long term address.. most associated men of the area.
    that is how we got it.

    the Y dna lining up with ancient north spain names, etc.
    I am very happy with the cost of this dig.. I really can't afford it anyway..

    the original word of mouth:
    we were named by a white gaelic guy.. and dubhan meant "dark"
    really stupid isn't it.

    they not only never named us...
    we are named after our original home

    my half uncle..much italian.
    he called us the longshoremen
    that is synonymous with master of the port.

    I understand now (rip uncle skip)
    my friend in the service from puerto rico called me "don juan" with sincere laughter..
    the funniest part of it?

    he was being serious.
    My name is the don juan to some of the spanish.
    it is related to the port town.
    England called it the vipers nest

    we have had a sword ans snake family shield for 500 or more years

    jean, john and juan.. sir saint and don
    Du, De, D' that means "of" 3 different ways.
    a mixup of 3 languages.
    Easy to misinterpret isn't it?
    I was known as something different 4 unique ways .. counting the gaelic.

    to think of mischief men and a boat... watch some jack sparrow and ponder the guy being real.

    we were too serious for that..
    simply wanted a port at the ocean is all.

    we repeated the same job in ireland.
    there is still a donovan boat yard to this day in west coark..or however they name the towns today

    long story short..we are more french/spanish/ roman/greek than anything.

    irish is just a fable of me truth be told..
    from dark leader to little brown poet
    the truth is not for them to behold


    explains the italian/french loves in the first generation in america.
    that is our real genes.
    My foot print of dna is strangely small there in ireland BTW.. for 1500 years or more. autosomally dead. Spooky,
    the Y path owns it..just like the north spain it comes from.. that is about all that is the same
    Last edited by Barry Donovan; August 27, 2021, 08:35 PM.
    Previously boxer3main
    the death rate and fairy tales cannot kill the nature left behind.

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    • got my y111 dna test results back.
      very unique.
      I only have 3 matches at y111...datingback hundreds of years to one of my grandpas giving up their son.
      my name was dead.

      my biggest matches are adopted donovans.

      as tragic as the word of mouth was for sure.

      one is dated at the norman invasion (1000 years ago)
      there is hundreds (maybe thousands) of offspring now.
      the other is much closer, like 400 yrs
      the 400 year one actually resembles a pale version of my dad.. with a vikings last name
      that guy must have been surprised to see the spanish surnames show up in his viking upbringing.

      both adoptions are to scandinavian.
      both adoptions helped me triangulate the surname that got them

      anderson and. andersdotter

      and the various old spellings.

      not an evil tale.. it was woman related.
      coincidence to time of a war.
      we liked the normans.
      they fixed my name to the current spelling.

      it was still donndubhain back then
      a hack of my basque spanish donibane.
      we are the don juan
      the san juan
      st. jean and the spanish st. john.

      we were loved for some reason.. hence south ireland is sitll a country of its own with just two surnames plastered everywhere like a middle eastern king

      donovan and williams.
      williams is in my Y list. Very old brothers apparently.

      we were the vipers pit. in spain,pasai donibane.
      the greek spanish pirates coming out of the mountains at the sea with ships.

      Lafayette used that port to set off for the american revolution.. he did very well too.

      we are the saved.. with a name as St. John.

      spanish continued to reserve that name for some coastal cities.. like puerto rico.
      san juan.

      With my current genetic make up. I want to wander to old places.
      I do not know what irish is.
      I do not know what scandinavian is.

      I am back to where we started from thousands of years ago only now as healthier american..
      given the history, being a disabled veteran sure seems appropriate
      god damn didn't they know fighting.

      french spanish and mysteriously matching lombards and greek graves.

      my true ancestry has me at 48% of my make up of dna is at all illyrian graves dug up.
      that is ancient greeks.
      the boat men.
      this tells me my spanish has an ancient greek origin, before we were ancient spanish, to be called ancient irish
      that must be a 5k year trail for sure.
      we are the r1b dna population boom of western europe.
      well written.. I guess we like to make some noise, and gather people around.



      Last edited by Barry Donovan; September 5, 2021, 06:44 PM.
      Previously boxer3main
      the death rate and fairy tales cannot kill the nature left behind.

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      • good read on irish

        person knew what they were compiling for the article.
        well done.

        the sadness of human defeat is having no ID.. assumed to be all the same. going forgotten.
        false prides and tales alter that much more...
        time fades the weakness away, and the strong remain without true words.
        you may have looked into the eyes of the last line of unique living there.
        I inadvertently wrote something sad

        into dna for quite awhile now.. nearly every day finding new things to look over.
        my autosomal irish nearly disappeared in two generations.. both my parents dropped their irish dads right off to small dna matches.
        Now us siblings even less.
        this means problems genetically had to go away.
        I knew then in research, the names known for strong are no longer.
        Previously boxer3main
        the death rate and fairy tales cannot kill the nature left behind.

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        • doppelganger?!

          I am one of a kind in my family..the diversity has 4 siblings looking and acting nothing alike.
          both parents alien to all 4 kids...
          and we are all fully related.

          I humored a doppelganger website... 9 million participants.
          non-celebrity just regular people.
          a computer uses artificial intelligence to find your look alike.

          at GED match, my existence is 71% south europe (they don't use names to play games with actual dna data)

          this guy looks nothing like me right?
          south italian guy.

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          once you see it...
          you won't able to unsee it.

          this is my number 1 at twinstrangers.net

          I had guessed dad took on his mothers father... this was by chromosome matching cousins dna data.
          both my parents gave their irish dads the boot.. not sure why or how.

          I took on grandmas dad too.. even more than my father did.
          spooky DNA.
          my grandma was 100% italian.
          I found surnames as old as the last pyramids (that is the only hint)

          not noticing anything at first. I uploaded 5 photos..
          this guy went from 72% up to 80%
          it simply kept matching...I was like
          this photo here I simply noticed why they did that.
          I almost jumped when I saw it.
          Last edited by Barry Donovan; September 30, 2021, 11:21 AM.
          Previously boxer3main
          the death rate and fairy tales cannot kill the nature left behind.

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          • You both have beards and brown eyes, but that's about all that matches.
            Ed, Mary, & 'Earl'
            HRPT LongHaulers, 08, 09, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19.


            Inside every old person is a young person wondering, "what the hell happened?"

            The man at the top of the mountain didn't fall there. -Vince Lombardi

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            • Every time I see this thread at the top of the page, I think of Matt.

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              • CV axle in the Suburban is shot. Already have the upper control arm that needs replaced, and hoping the wheel bearing isn’t gone as well. Looks like I’m going to be getting greasy in the not too distant future.
                I'm probably wrong

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                • when i was 20, my uncle was 60-- thats 3 times my age.
                  but fast forward another 20 years, and when i was 40, he
                  was 80 -- and thats only twice my age. he went from 3x
                  my age to 2x my age.....

                  how the heck is that even possible.....

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                  • Originally posted by fatguyzinc View Post
                    when i was 20, my uncle was 60-- thats 3 times my age.
                    but fast forward another 20 years, and when i was 40, he
                    was 80 -- and thats only twice my age. he went from 3x
                    my age to 2x my age.....

                    how the heck is that even possible.....
                    There is only one time in your life that you will be exactly half of your mother's age.
                    Do you know when that is?
                    Ed, Mary, & 'Earl'
                    HRPT LongHaulers, 08, 09, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19.


                    Inside every old person is a young person wondering, "what the hell happened?"

                    The man at the top of the mountain didn't fall there. -Vince Lombardi

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                    • Originally posted by oletrux4evr View Post

                      There is only one time in your life that you will be exactly half of your mother's age.
                      Do you know when that is?
                      When you ‘re the same age she was when you were born.
                      I'm probably wrong

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                      • Originally posted by tedly View Post

                        When you ‘re the same age she was when you were born.
                        Yep, that's a pretty cool question. I'm still trying to figure out how Sue Unit has three brothers but her brothers only have two.
                        Charter member of the Turd Nuggets

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                        • Originally posted by pdub View Post

                          Yep, that's a pretty cool question. I'm still trying to figure out how Sue Unit has three brothers but her brothers only have two.



                          i laughed so hard i snorked ice tea outta my nose....

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                          • Pdub, Sue’s mom has 4 girls, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.. what is thr 4th girl’s name?

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                            • Originally posted by Deaf Bob View Post
                              Pdub, Sue’s mom has 4 girls, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.. what is thr 4th girl’s name?
                              It's Becky. You can't fool me that easily DB, I saw that one in Reader's Digest in a waiting room.
                              Charter member of the Turd Nuggets

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                              • You are in a glass house with 4 walls. No matter what wall you look out of you are looking South. There is a bear visible outside. What color is the bear?
                                I'm probably wrong

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