DieselGeek/Scott Clark in the hot seat....

[Beagle]

you'd probably be better off searching for Dieselgeek on bangshift. the nutshell is he's a computer guy that got into EFI stuff and made a career of it. In that search, you will find that he and I are not friends.

Linux guy... who argued with me about how much marketshare and money Microsoft has... which was kind of an insight for me.

Squirrel's comment hit the mark.. Scott contributed a lot and instigated a lot too. I haven't seen Matt Cramer in here in a while, but in my book he was BangShift's other EFI guru and the one I wanted to see a reply from on my questions first. I hope this doesn't hurt his business by association, he seems like a really good guy.

[Thumpin455]

I will throw my half a penny and be in for a pound. Scott is an arrogant dick. Full stop. His head has swelled to the point he is an insufferable **** to put it mildly. Dude can do about 1/4 of what I can do(probably less to be honest), and yet he wants to talk down to me, and everyone else like he is some kind of god because he can do a WOT tune. Lots of people can do that, they just don't go around kissing asses and talking themselves up.... usually.

In the Pontiac world we have an arrogant prick like that. His name is Bruce Fulper, and has a shop in California. He is loathed in the Pontiac community, for good reason. He isn't faster, better, more knowledgeable than anyone, not even overly good at what he does, and he is a complete dick about it. Not only that, but he has screwed over many customers, sold their parts, done shoddy work, not backed up his work, the Pontiac forums are rife with his exploits. He has me blocked, because I have been around in the Pontiac world for a long time, and I called him years ago and got the "I will not talk to you until I get a credit card number" line. He constantly talked bad about Butler, which is amusing as they are orders of magnitude better engine builders. Pure arrogance. Its bitten him in the ass, years ago and he will never get out from under it after all the bridges he nuked.

Then we have Kaufman and Butler, and Bischop up in Canada, along with a handful of others, who when you call them they will take the time to help you out even if you aren't buying parts from them. They know you will come to them for parts and work.

If you are good at something, you do not have to impune the abilities of anyone else. If you are insecure about something, like maybe your lack of knowledge in the wide breadth of automotive technology, you will act like Scott and Bruce do. You can see their insecurities flowing out of what they say, they do with ad hominems right away, whereas those who actually know more than they do will simply state the facts.

You could say I am kinda salty about it, because having someone who is a one trick pony going off and spouting nonsense about things anyone can learn while knowing precious little else, yeah it is kinda like having a 9 year old tell me I am a stupid old man because I don't play candy crush. I have never seen him give accurate information on transmissions, setting up gears, suspensions, brakes, or even engines themselves. Dude simply does not know, and desperately wants to keep you from knowing that. He doesn't build cars, he doesn't have one of his own he races, he can't do the work, but wants to be viewed as an authority and expert. He isn't. That is why he gets so belligerent. It will bite him in the ass, even if he can't see it yet.

Reputations get around, and screwing yours up via ineptitude in public relations is a sure way to do it. Ask Bruce Flooper. Scott could pull his head out of his ass, but I doubt he will. He seems like the kind of guy who will double down and be even more of a dick.

[RockJustRock]

I find it curious that activity regarding Scott is down to nothing on Yellow Bullet and still going strong here. I thought WE were the nice guys?

On Pontiac I've been wondering.... What do the "Pontiac Guys" say about Big Chief? First I mean in general, is he a hero or dunce to them? But secondly it seems where we last left off things got really strange with the Crow. It looked like he wrote Butler a blank check to build the stoutest Pontiac known to man. Being a cynic I wondered if ANYONE had ever been in a position to do that before OR put Butler in that position. First he took on the aftermarket BBC and Hemi guys in NHRA Pro Mod and came up short. Then the motors started eating main bearings on a regular basis. Finally it was reported that Reher Morrison was called in to rework the oiling system. Now Chief is back to just Discovery Channel "Racing".

[JamesMayberryIII]

I find it curious that activity regarding Scott is down to nothing on Yellow Bullet and still going strong here. I thought WE were the nice guys?

On Pontiac I've been wondering.... What do the "Pontiac Guys" say about Big Chief? First I mean in general, is he a hero or dunce to them? But secondly it seems where we last left off things got really strange with the Crow. It looked like he wrote Butler a blank check to build the stoutest Pontiac known to man. Being a cynic I wondered if ANYONE had ever been in a position to do that before OR put Butler in that position. First he took on the aftermarket BBC and Hemi guys in NHRA Pro Mod and came up short. Then the motors started eating main bearings on a regular basis. Finally it was reported that Reher Morrison was called in to rework the oiling system. Now Chief is back to just Discovery Channel "Racing".

Well, If this group is thought of as a close knit "family". It might be more important to those "That" are here.
Heck, people rave on about those in entertainment industry that they don't know, To the point that news outlets can go out and ask people questions and those people will know who is shacked up with who, in hollyweird, or what happened on a show/movie. But if asked what is going on around them, issues of the day, you get either blank stares or a totally off the wall reply. Making that person look like a fool.
I wasn't here when this guy was, but if he made waves, many on the other end of waves, Tend to love when Karma comes calling.

[Loren]

I wasn't here when this guy was

Eye roll. Of-course you know Scott from 'way back, probably better than most.

[Gateclyve Photographic]

I find it curious that activity regarding Scott is down to nothing on Yellow Bullet and still going strong here.

Porn and jock sniffing do that to a YB forum freak's brain . . .

I thought WE were the nice guys?

That's a nose geyser moment . . . BS is like a little neighborhood bar. . . . Some nice regulars. . . . A few "tools." . . . The occasional rowdy troublemaker. Suspicious of outsiders . . . . Owners who don't pay much attention to the details anymore. . . .

On Pontiac I've been wondering.... What do the "Pontiac Guys" say about Big Chief? ".

Having owned at least one real Pontiac for the past four decades -- which might barely qualify me as a "Pontiac Guy" -- and having met Chief in person, I'd say he's probably not any more popular or unpopular in Poncholand than in other automotive communities. The date-coders won't like 'em. Some of the flat-brimmers will. The geezers and drag racing purists will be split. . . . Plenty will give him props for not going the lazy lemming way with an open-checkbook aftermarket BBC or an LS. . . . Others will be envious . . . Many armchair critics and skeptics . . . . Some will say fame and fortune have "changed" him (I'm guessing Allicia Shearer is in that camp).

Because this is a court docket gossip thread, here's a link to Big Chief's on-going divorce case . http://www.oscn.net/dockets/GetCaseI...94&cmid=376487. . . Apparently they're still wrangling over "starter wife"/"baby mama" Allicia's piece of Big Chief's automobiles and other stuff he's bought with the big "Street Outlaws" paychecks. (Not as much "juice" in the public record as with DG, though).

[Loren]

I find it curious that activity regarding Scott is down to nothing on Yellow Bullet and still going strong here. I thought WE were the nice guys?

I still don't think it's the individual who's being discussed here, as much as it is the situation is found to be notable (it has been a long time since he's been around). Lord knows, stuck in jail is low enough and no one needs to be brought down much lower than that, although it's worth discussing history and he pissed off a few here including me, 'taint no big deal. However that "customer list" must be a doozy for it to be worth incarceration over, presumably the alternative, i.e. providing it to the court, was worse. As far as YB goes, it -is- the individual they were talking about and I suppose it got old fast.

I'd like to think we're the "nice guys", but don't tolerate compulsive liars so much.

[Gateclyve Photographic]

However that "customer list" must be a doozy for it to be worth incarceration over, presumably the alternative, i.e. providing it to the court, was worse.

It's a stupid "hill on which to die." There's not a court in America that wouldn't find that the customer list is NOT information that's right-down-the-centerline essential to a case where the major allegation is that DG diverted customers during his time of employment.

Business folks who get sued are also familiar with something called a "protective order" . . . that's a court order that most often prohibits the use of proprietary and sensitive information received from the other side for any purpose other than fighting in the lawsuit. Most of the time, this information has to be strictly controlled (limited access), and destroyed or returned at the end of the case. If it's good enough for GM, Chrysler and Ford, there's nothing that DG has that's too "sensitive" for a protective order to protect.

DG's not some crusading journalist protecting a confidential source, or a priest protecting the identity of a congregant, or a psychotherapist shielding the identity of a patient. The cynic would suggest that DG's merely refusing to produce the "smoking gun" (i.e. the identity of the customers he allegedly stole and/or diverted from the Plaintiff). If he didn't do it, producing the list would help "clear his name."

[SuperBuickGuy]

I still don't think it's the individual who's being discussed here, as much as it is the situation is found to be notable (it has been a long time since he's been around). Lord knows, stuck in jail is low enough and no one needs to be brought down much lower than that, although it's worth discussing history and he pissed off a few here including me, 'taint no big deal. However that "customer list" must be a doozy for it to be worth incarceration over, presumably the alternative, i.e. providing it to the court, was worse. As far as YB goes, it -is- the individual they were talking about and I suppose it got old fast.

I'd like to think we're the "nice guys", but don't tolerate compulsive liars so much.

the cynic in my thinks he's not disclosing the customer list and he's suborning perjury (what I think really got him jailed) because it contains proof of all the other party's assertions. In short, he's in trouble now but once the truth comes out - it will be far, far worse for him.

Remember, bad business decisions are disposable in bankruptcy.... unless it was criminal.

[SuperBuickGuy]

It's a stupid "hill on which to die." There's not a court in America that wouldn't find that the customer list is NOT information that's right-down-the-centerline essential to a case where the major allegation is that DG diverted customers during his time of employment.

Business folks who get sued are also familiar with something called a "protective order" . . . that's a court order that most often prohibits the use of proprietary and sensitive information received from the other side for any purpose other than fighting in the lawsuit. Most of the time, this information has to be strictly controlled (limited access), and destroyed or returned at the end of the case. If it's good enough for GM, Chrysler and Ford, there's nothing that DG has that's too "sensitive" for a protective order to protect.

DG's not some crusading journalist protecting a confidential source, or a priest protecting the identity of a congregant, or a psychotherapist shielding the identity of a patient. The cynic would suggest that DG's merely refusing to produce the "smoking gun" (i.e. the identity of the customers he allegedly stole and/or diverted from the Plaintiff). If he didn't do it, producing the list would help "clear his name."

Also "Confession is good for the soul" .... I think the time has come for him to realize it only gets worse with every passing day. Ah well, still ain't my monkey nor my circus

[Deaf Bob]

the cynic in my thinks he's not disclosing the customer list and he's suborning perjury (what I think really got him jailed) because it contains proof of all the other party's assertions. In short, he's in trouble now but once the truth comes out - it will be far, far worse for him.

Remember, bad business decisions are disposable in bankruptcy.... unless it was criminal.

Know nothing but what I read here, kinda good at how/why people act the way they do, I'm inclined to think that the list will prove him to be in the wrong...
Because if it clears him, it would have been given before it got to contempt status..

[SuperBuickGuy]

Know nothing but what I read here, kinda good at how/why people act the way they do, I'm inclined to think that the list will prove him to be in the wrong...
Because if it clears him, it would have been given before it got to contempt status..

DG brought a lawsuit against the principals of EFIlive and DIYTune (and others). So far the score is DG zero, Hoffman is about $10,000 (and it's just getting started)... let's keep in mind that Scott brought this on himself - so what's the assertion about being smart?

[Deaf Bob]

DG brought a lawsuit against the principals of EFIlive and DIYTune (and others). So far the score is DG zero, Hoffman is about $10,000 (and it's just getting started)... let's keep in mind that Scott brought this on himself - so what's the assertion about being smart?

Arrogance?
I get we are in a sue society..

[BigAL]

One thing is pretty well proven, anytime Scott is involved with something it runs better and goes faster.

[RockJustRock]

Haters gonna hate.