Treasure them

[squirrel]

heh....

The HAMB has a fixed date cutoff, and stated technology "off topic" rules, not a rolling cutoff, so I doubt that'll happen. But you never know! maybe one day a version of the HAMB for more modern hot rods might appear.

[silver_bullet]

the only car I have with a computer is the 06 tahoe, and I ignore the computer as much as I can. When it starts giving problems, the car will go.But it probably won't give problems, they seem to be pretty well made, near the end of a model's production.

somehow I continue to resist the urge to put all that stuff in older cars. It's fun to accomplish things today with methods that appear to be magic, to those who grew up with everything computerized

That's why I am so proud of Sean for taking the time to learn about tuning the carb on his 83 S-10....he already has HP Tuners as well as two Snap On diagnostics analyzers, but wants me to teach him the old ways as well....

[DanStokes]

the only car I have with a computer is the 06 tahoe, and I ignore the computer as much as I can. When it starts giving problems, the car will go.But it probably won't give problems, they seem to be pretty well made, near the end of a model's production.

somehow I continue to resist the urge to put all that stuff in older cars. It's fun to accomplish things today with methods that appear to be magic, to those who grew up with everything computerized

Along this line - whatever the heck is computin' in ME's 08 HHR is bulletproof. Probably shouldn't have said this out loud (hope I didn't jinx anything) but I really don't expect any issues if there haven't been any for 180K+ miles. Turn the key and the car works - gotta like that.

Dan

[SuperBuickGuy]

heh....

The HAMB has a fixed date cutoff, and stated technology "off topic" rules, not a rolling cutoff, so I doubt that'll happen. But you never know! maybe one day a version of the HAMB for more modern hot rods might appear.

what's new today is going to be what someone else later says "oh that old thing"

[SuperBuickGuy]

Along this line - whatever the heck is computin' in ME's 08 HHR is bulletproof. Probably shouldn't have said this out loud (hope I didn't jinx anything) but I really don't expect any issues if there haven't been any for 180K+ miles. Turn the key and the car works - gotta like that.

Dan

OBDII seems to have a longer shelf life then OBDI .... but who knows, I'm sure 10 years from now someone will be whining that they can't get an app for their implanted computer so they can reprogram their old car's computer.

[Dan Barlow]

Along this line - whatever the heck is computin' in ME's 08 HHR is bulletproof. Probably shouldn't have said this out loud (hope I didn't jinx anything) but I really don't expect any issues if there haven't been any for 180K+ miles. Turn the key and the car works - gotta like that.

Dan

Ever had to take the drums off the rear though ! Or for that matter the wheels ? Took a big hand sledge to the back of the wheels and a couple rotations while doing it !
And the drums ! We had to pry the backing plates back in a couple spots and use my ginormous puller to get them off .

[squirrel]

good thing Dan lives in NC, not Indy!

[DanStokes]

Ever had to take the drums off the rear though ! Or for that matter the wheels ? Took a big hand sledge to the back of the wheels and a couple rotations while doing it !
And the drums ! We had to pry the backing plates back in a couple spots and use my ginormous puller to get them off .

I've done that and it wasn't an issue. Took me a while to sort out that weird spring thingy that retracts the shoes but eventually I sorted that out, too. One of those deals where the next time would be dead easy.

Dan

[Eric]

Ever had to take the drums off the rear though ! Or for that matter the wheels ? Took a big hand sledge to the back of the wheels and a couple rotations while doing it !
And the drums ! We had to pry the backing plates back in a couple spots and use my ginormous puller to get them off .

I've learnt to cheat. Any of my vehicles with drums in the rear, meaning all of the older stuff, when I put on drums, either new or put the old ones back on, I have them turned, and the last inner edge turned down 1/16th x1/4"wide. this way that lip that forms on the edge of the drum that you fight to get the shoes off never forms.

[DanStokes]

With both drums and rotors, I'll take the 4 1'2" grinder to that outer ring and grind it off. Do they teach you that at UTI - um, no. But it works and is pretty much free - and I don't have to take the part in question to a shop and wait for them. One of many "cheats" I've devised over the years.

Dan