New 7.3L Ford gasser

[BBR]

Pushrods, cross bolted block, forged crank, looks promising. I'll take one for a fox body plz.

[SuperBuickGuy]

I can already hear the tears from the OHC community.

[BBR]

Valve springs look like they have an installed height of 3". lol

[Gateclyve Photographic]

I can already hear the tears from the OHC community.

The Luddites who buy this sort of mill probably wouldn't accept an actual modern engine. They just want LESS. The real tears will be over the lack of multi-valving. But this is a tacit admission -- in ford's reinvent-the-wheel style-- that they made a mistake when they discontinued the 460 in favor of the V10.

BTW, if they would ever do a 4-valve head for the 6.2 Boss, it would whip this new lump as a hot rod 'plant . .

[SuperBuickGuy]

The Luddites who buy this sort of mill probably wouldn't accept an actual modern engine. They just want LESS. The real tears will be over the lack of multi-valving. But this is a tacit admission -- in ford's reinvent-the-wheel style-- that they made a mistake when they discontinued the 460 in favor of the V10.

BTW, if they would ever do a 4-valve head for the 6.2 Boss, it would whip this new lump as a hot rod 'plant . .

as I said, scream "betrayal"

Apparently, LS is new.

Oh yeah, and torque remains king.

[DanStokes]

Besides, that new Ford engine has holes all over it - you can even see some of the pistons. And the oil will fly EVERYWHERE! I think there's more work to be done before it's ready for prime time.

Dan

[Gateclyve Photographic]

as I said, scream "betrayal"

Apparently, LS is new.

Oh yeah, and torque remains king.

1. how is it a "betrayal?" "Buddy" Hackett is a cost-chopper, so It's plainly predictable that Ford would ape the other cheap two-valvers for a low r.p.m. truck engine. They seemingly built an engine that their techno-phobic customers and the bean-counters wanted. Did anyone really think they were going to build anything more exotic for such a niche engine?

2. LS technically is "new." It's the LT now. . . 1901 OHV tech re-imaged in the 1948 Kettering style with a dollop of microchip-controlled 1950s Mercedes direct injection. I hear the kiddies love it.

3. Cheap remains king. Torque is just part of the sales pitch. The marks that blow $100,000+ on a Platnum or King Ranch "Dually" want bragging rights and most of them couldn't tell the difference if 10 or 15 or 50 lbs/ft were shifted somewhere else. One thing about Ford -- it's been number one with the F-series for over 40 years because it usually figures out how to efficiently separate truck buyers from their dough.

[Gateclyve Photographic]

It's interesting to see where "Godzilla" fits into the bore spacing chart (Remember bore spacing is one of the things Ford haters sometimes harp on)

4.380 -- Ford Y Block/SBF/Ford 335
4.400 -- SBC//LS/LT/Lotus-Mercury Marine LT-5/Mercury Marine SB4
4.460 -- Gen III Hemi
4.530 -- Boss 6.2/"Godzilla" Super Duty 7.3
4.630 -- Lincoln Y Block/FE/FT
4.800 -- Chrysler B/RB/Gen II Hemi
4.840 -- Chevrolet W 348 & 409/BBC Mark II, Mark IV, Gen. V, Gen VI, Gen VII.
4.900 -- MEL/ 385 Ford (BBF)Boss 429/ GM DRCE 3

Given the need to reuse tooling to cut costs (virtually all of the reporting suggests cost cutting is a primary objective with the "Godzilla" V8 program), it's not surprising that the $700 million investment promised to the Canadian Autoworkers Union for this thing slots into an existing bore center relationship.

It would seem that while none of the "modern" [giggle, snicker] OHV two-valvers (and the LS-based DOHC 4-valve $$$$$ SB4) have the w-i-d-e bore spacing of the vintage big blocks or aftermarket OHV racing engines, the Fords are now clearly the biggest of the smaller ones.

Interestingly, the 7-liter Mercury Marine SB4 -- which is a fairly conservative DOHC conversion -- makes 750 (559 kW) horsepower @ 7500 RPM on "motor" alone -- again proving the obsolescence of the two-valve antiques that so many "advanced" hot rodders venerate.

Also interesting is the "insider" claim that one of the biggest reasons for the 7.3 (other than the promise to the CAW) is for the chassis cab market: U-Haul, Budget, motorhome builders etc. It seems the fleet buyers want an anvil that gets better mileage than the V10 and is cheaper to overhaul.

An incompetent cheapskake like "Buddy" Hackett is unlikely to sign off on any EcoBoost V8 or SB4 killer, But it will be interesting to see if GM and Chrysler are forced to do more with their antediluvian two-valvers in response.

[Shep48COE]

1. how is it a "betrayal?" "Buddy" Hackett is a cost-chopper, so It's plainly predictable that Ford would ape the other cheap two-valvers for a low r.p.m. truck engine. They seemingly built an engine that their techno-phobic customers and the bean-counters wanted. Did anyone really think they were going to build anything more exotic for such a niche engine?

2. LS technically is "new." It's the LT now. . . 1901 OHV tech re-imaged in the 1948 Kettering style with a dollop of microchip-controlled 1950s Mercedes direct injection. I hear the kiddies love it.

3. Cheap remains king. Torque is just part of the sales pitch. The marks that blow $100,000+ on a Platnum or King Ranch "Dually" want bragging rights and most of them couldn't tell the difference if 10 or 15 or 50 lbs/ft were shifted somewhere else. One thing about Ford -- it's been number one with the F-series for over 40 years because it usually figures out how to efficiently separate truck buyers from their dough.

Always thought Ford was #1 seller because they count GMC and Chevy separately.

[Monster]

Always thought Ford was #1 seller because they count GMC and Chevy separately.

Ha, ha, ha ...

[Gateclyve Photographic]

Always thought Ford was #1 seller because they count GMC and Chevy separately.

Overall, in 2017, Ford sold nearly 900,000 F-Series, comfortably outpacing the combined 800,000 total of GM’s Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra models.

While a few years over the past four decades the Chevrolet-GMC total has oulsold Ford F-series, most of the time Ford F-Series has outsold the combined GM full-size truck sales. Ford is also the only US maker which still supplies a full line of full-size light and medium duty trucks (Class 1 through Class 7).

The snarky GM fan boys, of course, cannot be bothered by actual facts because Chevyism is a faith.

[Tubbed Pacecar]

Found this pic on FORD website, not a cutaway engine, and has TWO alternators

Too bad they're not divulging any HP/Tq #'s yet

[DanStokes]

Hummm - an alternator and an alternate alternator. Must be a reason.

Dan

[BBR]

It's just a pre-engineered location for a supercharger.

[Gateclyve Photographic]

Hummm - an alternator and an alternate alternator. Must be a reason.

Dan

Wild guess: Electric load from a start-stop system? I'm a little surprised not to see belt alternator starter system, but then cost and the conservatism of the buyers might have cut that.