Pushrods, cross bolted block, forged crank, looks promising. I'll take one for a fox body plz.
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Last edited by BBR; February 5, 2019, 07:38 AM.Life is short. Be a do'er and not a shoulda done'er.
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Valve springs look like they have an installed height of 3". lolLife is short. Be a do'er and not a shoulda done'er.
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Originally posted by SuperBuickGuy View PostI can already hear the tears from the OHC community.
BTW, if they would ever do a 4-valve head for the 6.2 Boss, it would whip this new lump as a hot rod 'plant . .
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Originally posted by Gateclyve Photographic View Post
The Luddites who buy this sort of mill probably wouldn't accept an actual modern engine. They just want LESS. The real tears will be over the lack of multi-valving. But this is a tacit admission -- in ford's reinvent-the-wheel style-- that they made a mistake when they discontinued the 460 in favor of the V10.
BTW, if they would ever do a 4-valve head for the 6.2 Boss, it would whip this new lump as a hot rod 'plant . .
Apparently, LS is new.
Oh yeah, and torque remains king.Last edited by SuperBuickGuy; February 5, 2019, 08:29 AM.Doing it all wrong since 1966
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Originally posted by SuperBuickGuy View Post
as I said, scream "betrayal"
Apparently, LS is new.
Oh yeah, and torque remains king.
2. LS technically is "new." It's the LT now. . . 1901 OHV tech re-imaged in the 1948 Kettering style with a dollop of microchip-controlled 1950s Mercedes direct injection. I hear the kiddies love it.
3. Cheap remains king. Torque is just part of the sales pitch. The marks that blow $100,000+ on a Platnum or King Ranch "Dually" want bragging rights and most of them couldn't tell the difference if 10 or 15 or 50 lbs/ft were shifted somewhere else. One thing about Ford -- it's been number one with the F-series for over 40 years because it usually figures out how to efficiently separate truck buyers from their dough.
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It's interesting to see where "Godzilla" fits into the bore spacing chart (Remember bore spacing is one of the things Ford haters sometimes harp on)
4.380 -- Ford Y Block/SBF/Ford 335
4.400 -- SBC//LS/LT/Lotus-Mercury Marine LT-5/Mercury Marine SB4
4.460 -- Gen III Hemi
4.530 -- Boss 6.2/"Godzilla" Super Duty 7.3
4.630 -- Lincoln Y Block/FE/FT
4.800 -- Chrysler B/RB/Gen II Hemi
4.840 -- Chevrolet W 348 & 409/BBC Mark II, Mark IV, Gen. V, Gen VI, Gen VII.
4.900 -- MEL/ 385 Ford (BBF)Boss 429/ GM DRCE 3
Given the need to reuse tooling to cut costs (virtually all of the reporting suggests cost cutting is a primary objective with the "Godzilla" V8 program), it's not surprising that the $700 million investment promised to the Canadian Autoworkers Union for this thing slots into an existing bore center relationship.
It would seem that while none of the "modern" [giggle, snicker] OHV two-valvers (and the LS-based DOHC 4-valve $$$$$ SB4) have the w-i-d-e bore spacing of the vintage big blocks or aftermarket OHV racing engines, the Fords are now clearly the biggest of the smaller ones.
Interestingly, the 7-liter Mercury Marine SB4 -- which is a fairly conservative DOHC conversion -- makes 750 (559 kW) horsepower @ 7500 RPM on "motor" alone -- again proving the obsolescence of the two-valve antiques that so many "advanced" hot rodders venerate.
Also interesting is the "insider" claim that one of the biggest reasons for the 7.3 (other than the promise to the CAW) is for the chassis cab market: U-Haul, Budget, motorhome builders etc. It seems the fleet buyers want an anvil that gets better mileage than the V10 and is cheaper to overhaul.
An incompetent cheapskake like "Buddy" Hackett is unlikely to sign off on any EcoBoost V8 or SB4 killer, But it will be interesting to see if GM and Chrysler are forced to do more with their antediluvian two-valvers in response.Last edited by Gateclyve Photographic; February 5, 2019, 02:38 PM.
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Originally posted by Gateclyve Photographic View Post
1. how is it a "betrayal?" "Buddy" Hackett is a cost-chopper, so It's plainly predictable that Ford would ape the other cheap two-valvers for a low r.p.m. truck engine. They seemingly built an engine that their techno-phobic customers and the bean-counters wanted. Did anyone really think they were going to build anything more exotic for such a niche engine?
2. LS technically is "new." It's the LT now. . . 1901 OHV tech re-imaged in the 1948 Kettering style with a dollop of microchip-controlled 1950s Mercedes direct injection. I hear the kiddies love it.
3. Cheap remains king. Torque is just part of the sales pitch. The marks that blow $100,000+ on a Platnum or King Ranch "Dually" want bragging rights and most of them couldn't tell the difference if 10 or 15 or 50 lbs/ft were shifted somewhere else. One thing about Ford -- it's been number one with the F-series for over 40 years because it usually figures out how to efficiently separate truck buyers from their dough.
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Originally posted by Shep48COE View Post
Always thought Ford was #1 seller because they count GMC and Chevy separately.Overall, in 2017, Ford sold nearly 900,000 F-Series, comfortably outpacing the combined 800,000 total of GM’s Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra models.
The snarky GM fan boys, of course, cannot be bothered by actual facts because Chevyism is a faith.In going upscale on the trim and features on my truck, I followed a path trodden by many F-150 buyers who want their vehicle to fill two primary roles; as a capable, utility vehicle and as a very comfortable, well-equipped long distance vehicle for up to five adults.Last edited by Gateclyve Photographic; February 6, 2019, 08:04 AM.
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Found this pic on FORD website, not a cutaway engine, and has TWO alternators
Too bad they're not divulging any HP/Tq #'s yet
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It's just a pre-engineered location for a supercharger.Life is short. Be a do'er and not a shoulda done'er.
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1973 F-250 BBF Turbo Truck http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...uck-conversion
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Originally posted by DanStokes View PostHummm - an alternator and an alternate alternator. Must be a reason.
Dan
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