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    Finnegan's abortive attempt to put his story on Drag Week up on his YouTube channel brings up a question.

    For the newer, BS used to be Car Junkie - Dave Freiburger started it and when he went back to HRM, they forced him to divest from here.

    So taking as argument that MTOD forced Finnegan to edit his video - what do you think about that? the poll is for convenience, but I'm interested to hear what people think of this in this new age of 'TV'

    At this moment, I'm ambivalent - that said, does it help or hurt our hobby? I'm not sure.
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    Problematic
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    No problem
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    Last edited by SuperBuickGuy; October 5, 2019, 07:40 PM.
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    I also wonder how much of Blasphemi is paid for directly by MTOD.... maybe that changes my mind?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by SuperBuickGuy View Post
      I also wonder how much of Blasphemi is paid for directly by MTOD.... maybe that changes my mind?
      That I doubt we will never know but there must have been so many thousands spent before this Drag Week, maybe he is getting paid that well for his personality by MTOD.

      The Hemi did stay together this year, a big part of the finish. There was the thrash to repair 1st gear in the gearbox and then they made it back for a pass. But correct me if I'm wrong the pass was after lanes closed???

      At the moment I'm on the side that it's all real and not the normal "fail" Roadkill story.

      P.S. I didn't vote, I was looking for an option like "Do you think MTOD may be going down a slippery slope"
      Last edited by 65RHDEER; October 5, 2019, 07:59 PM.
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      • #4
        The pass he made after the transmission thrash on Thursday...he got in line in time, I was standing there watching him, at the front of the staging lanes.

        As one of the racers, in his class, I will say that he beat me fair and square.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by squirrel View Post
          The pass he made after the transmission thrash on Thursday...he got in line in time, I was standing there watching him, at the front of the staging lanes.

          As one of the racers, in his class, I will say that he beat me fair and square.
          Did you get beat by Finnegan or Motor Trend? it was my understanding that the point of Drag Week was to discourage sponsorship... am I wrong?
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          • #6
            and maybe I am asking this for my own selfish motives - I think DW would be fun, but it's entire attraction is based upon not racing against corporation wallets.... how much do you think those 3 hemis cost to build?
            so there's my selfish thing - I'll lose 10 work days, spend thousands of dollars to go as long as it's a bunch of like minded people who only are doing it for bragging rights.... maybe 65RH is right and there should be a slippery slope option.... or reading too much into it.... I see the mountain it will take to climb to 2020 DW and I'm questioning that.... I like what the Aussies did by running once then running to win... but I'm also allergic to helping corps get richer.
            Last edited by SuperBuickGuy; October 5, 2019, 09:19 PM.
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            • #7
              I thought it was a cheeky move.
              My hobby is needing a hobby.

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              • #8
                I don't see the commercialism. I do see Finnegan working his ass off for years, to finally get his dream 55 built and able to compete in DW, and then finally winning with it. I think he gets some help from some sponsors, but he has a pretty big monetary "investment" himself. I don't see any MTOD sponsorship issue. Maybe I"m too close to see it? or maybe you're to far away to see what's really going on? It's a bunch of guys racing, it's an expensive game but we pour whatever time and money we can into it, and don't expect to see any monetary reward.

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                • #9
                  I think there is a issue, the Youtube video was Finnigan's story of his Drag Week as he participated in it, if they stop him telling his story I think that's not a good thing.

                  Maybe showing Tony in it was the wrong thing to do as he'd have something going on in regard to MTOD. The racing you could see from the online feed, the racing commentary talking about how they were going, we know he finished and won his class, he hasn't let the cat out of the bag there.

                  I'm looking forward to what MTOD has for this upcoming episode as I think it will show a lot of the stuff that Finn couldn't cover, like the gearbox thrash. But I am disappointed that Finns telling of his racing week is no longer available to be seen, I'm glad I caught it.

                  You'd think MTOD would be after gaining interest in an upcoming episode. We've seen what Finn's story was, MTOD will show the story looking in.
                  Tim
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SuperBuickGuy View Post
                    So taking as argument that MTOD forced Finnegan to edit his video - what do you think about that?
                    Poor sportsmanship on MTOD's part.

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                    • #11
                      I was surprised they allowed him to have his own show . But glad they did .
                      I was surprised that he entered as in some way shape or form , he is an employee . But I did enjoy watching him .
                      I really thought when Tony appeared that it looked like a company effort. .
                      I don't think it matters if he got free parts . Lots of people probably at some level have gotten free parts . Through stores or companies they own or do business for in their normal life .
                      So ,I put its problematic because I'm on both sides of this .
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 65RHDEER View Post
                        I think there is a issue, the Youtube video was Finnigan's story of his Drag Week as he participated in it, if they stop him telling his story I think that's not a good thing.

                        Maybe showing Tony in it was the wrong thing to do as he'd have something going on in regard to MTOD. The racing you could see from the online feed, the racing commentary talking about how they were going, we know he finished and won his class, he hasn't let the cat out of the bag there.

                        I'm looking forward to what MTOD has for this upcoming episode as I think it will show a lot of the stuff that Finn couldn't cover, like the gearbox thrash. But I am disappointed that Finns telling of his racing week is no longer available to be seen, I'm glad I caught it.

                        You'd think MTOD would be after gaining interest in an upcoming episode. We've seen what Finn's story was, MTOD will show the story looking in.
                        I agree 100% with what you're saying here. I figured my YT video would just provide additional interest in the MT video that will be coming out later this year. The MT video will be amazing and the footage they captured is 10 times better and covers more details throughout DW than what I saved on my iPhone. However, even though I've entered this event for the past several years on my own dime and created content on my YT channel about the event, the fact is that I did inadvertently "steal their thunder". It wasn't my intention, which is why I edited out the bulk of the Drag Week content from my video.

                        Now as to whether or not having MT filming gave me some sort of advantage at DW....the answer is unequivocally "No." I paid my entry fee like everyone else, followed the same rules as everyone else. The only real different between myself and everyone else is that because we filmed an episode of RK I had to bring in a new co-pilot who had zero experience with my car. Tony flew directly from another job and had to show up during registration and instantly learn every facet of my car and how to race it. This immediately put us behind because it took twice as long to convert the car from street to track mode. We didn't get into a groove and do this efficiently until Day 4. and then the trans broke on us. lol

                        Prior to DW I explained the rules thoroughly to the crew making sure they knew that if we broke down they couldn't give us a ride, lend us tools, go get us parts or carry our cooler or luggage. They were there to film and not interfere. Although the film crew was in "Documentary Mode", providing zero support during the event, they still had a job to do which meant that I couldn't just work on the car at my own pace and go up to the starting line to make a hit whenever I felt like it. There were multiple times where I had to tell the crew "I know you need me to drop what I'm doing, turn to the camera and explain what is happening, but if I do that then we run out of time and will be out of this event." It was a stressful relationship ship during the week because I was there to compete and they were there to make an episode of the show.

                        As for whether MT backs my car financially...No it does not. This car is owned, maintained, destroyed, rebuilt and paid for 100 percent by myself. I'm extremely lucky to have a couple of good friends who help me wrench on it. Yes I do get help from a few excellent sponsors for small parts but nobody and I mean nobody is giving away free Hemis when they blow up. When the Hemi breaks, MT does not pay for it. When the gearbox breaks the day before DW ends, MT does not pay for it. I have three jobs. I bust my ass at every one of those jobs which is how I afford to continue working on and paying for Blasphemi.

                        In short, I'm very lucky to do what I do. I have the best job in the world. However, I do not think my DW-effort is "corporate backed" or in some way takes anything away from DW or the A/Gas class. It;s taken me 7 years to get to this point, untold hours lying under my car in my home garage and a stupid amount of money drained directly out of my wallet to make my car run the way it does. There was no magic shortcut to winning this year and the result would have been the same whether or not there had been cameras pointed at myself and Tony. Thanks for the interest and the support, guys and gals.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by FINNEGAN View Post
                          Thanks for the interest and the support, guys and gals.
                          Congratulations again and thank you for the explanation. Not sure why your user title was stuck at "Tire Chirper", but I changed it to something more appropriate. If you want to change it, you can anytime. How about a cool picture from your DW campaign this year for your avatar ?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by squirrel View Post
                            I don't see the commercialism. I do see Finnegan working his ass off for years, to finally get his dream 55 built and able to compete in DW, and then finally winning with it. I think he gets some help from some sponsors, but he has a pretty big monetary "investment" himself. I don't see any MTOD sponsorship issue. Maybe I"m too close to see it? or maybe you're to far away to see what's really going on? It's a bunch of guys racing, it's an expensive game but we pour whatever time and money we can into it, and don't expect to see any monetary reward.
                            I see it this way too. If we suddenly start seeing advertisement featuring Mike or the car we may have to reconsider.........
                            Having said that, I also have to say I don't know how Mike can do Drag Week, which is a major feat in and of itself, but also film for MTOD and his You Tube channel........that alone deserves kudos.
                            My vote went to 'No Problem'.
                            Last edited by oletrux4evr; October 6, 2019, 06:35 AM.
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                            • #15
                              IMHO, the effort should have exhibition only. Following the rules could have been PART of the exhibition, but taking the prizes not so much. Freiburger COULD have said "Finnigan WOULD have won A/Gas IF he could have entered.". Just my "O".
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