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  • SuperBuickGuy
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    Originally posted by CTX-SLPR View Post
    The whole weak transmission think probably limits taking it as far as you can as there is an L67 based turbo motor in a Grand National that was pulling down 700hp easy but again saddled with a 4L60E. Overall the blocks have a lot of more strength than the older 3.8L's with the crossbolted main caps, a solid valley, and thicker decks.
    what 4L60e or 700r4 is behind a GNX motor?
    Last edited by SuperBuickGuy; July 15, 2020, 02:13 PM.

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  • SuperBuickGuy
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    Originally posted by Beagle View Post

    should be able to , came out of a farm implement... :|

    I kid... I kid.

    No, I don't think the 3800 will replace the LS for dirt cheap performance. 400hp out of a 6.0 LS is pretty much... put it on the dyno. Maybe a cam swap and headers for a 5.3 ... "mild" cam and headers on a 6.0 is an easy 500 hp / 500 ish Tq. The mill is genius. The thing it came I'm not always as fond of. The 4L80e enjoys good parts and multiple controllers too.

    I'd like to see the 3800 with a hairdryer instead of a huffer. What is the general torque limit the block will put up with?
    according to my guy who is building and running them (Kevin Yates Racing)... 1500 hp...
    Last edited by SuperBuickGuy; July 15, 2020, 02:21 PM.

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  • CTX-SLPR
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    The whole weak transmission think probably limits taking it as far as you can as there is an L67 based turbo motor in a Grand National that was pulling down 700hp easy but again saddled with a 4L60E. Overall the blocks have a lot of more strength than the older 3.8L's with the crossbolted main caps, a solid valley, and thicker decks.
    Last edited by CTX-SLPR; July 15, 2020, 12:20 PM.

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  • Beagle
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    Originally posted by SuperBuickGuy View Post

    you do know what I think of Fords, right? though I may be bought for a few "ran when pulled" 3800s (like the one I just got with a rattly rod).

    joking aside, an allegedly useable 4L80e isn't that expensive - can you sneak them in as "used farm parts?" like I did with the 300tdi?
    should be able to , came out of a farm implement... :|

    I kid... I kid.

    No, I don't think the 3800 will replace the LS for dirt cheap performance. 400hp out of a 6.0 LS is pretty much... put it on the dyno. Maybe a cam swap and headers for a 5.3 ... "mild" cam and headers on a 6.0 is an easy 500 hp / 500 ish Tq. The mill is genius. The thing it came I'm not always as fond of. The 4L80e enjoys good parts and multiple controllers too.

    I'd like to see the 3800 with a hairdryer instead of a huffer. What is the general torque limit the block will put up with?
    Last edited by Beagle; July 15, 2020, 08:34 AM.

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  • SuperBuickGuy
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    Originally posted by 65RHDEER View Post
    I'll ship you the Barra's, you ship me the 4L80's
    you do know what I think of Fords, right? though I may be bought for a few "ran when pulled" 3800s (like the one I just got with a rattly rod).

    joking aside, an allegedly useable 4L80e isn't that expensive - can you sneak them in as "used farm parts?" like I did with the 300tdi?
    Last edited by SuperBuickGuy; July 15, 2020, 07:28 AM.

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  • 65RHDEER
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    I'll ship you the Barra's, you ship me the 4L80's

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  • SuperBuickGuy
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    Originally posted by 65RHDEER View Post

    The only thing I can think of that came with a 4L80e were the 6.5 Suburbans that Holden sold here around the turn of the century. They would have only sold a few thousand of them.
    Just stick a glide in it, done!
    sounds like there's opportunity to smuggle in some 4L80s
    go to the race track "hey buddy, you want 4 speeds?"

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  • 65RHDEER
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    Originally posted by SuperBuickGuy View Post

    I wonder at 4L80e availability in Australia... that was pretty much a truck-only deal...
    The only thing I can think of that came with a 4L80e were the 6.5 Suburbans that Holden sold here around the turn of the century. They would have only sold a few thousand of them.
    Just stick a glide in it, done!

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  • CTX-SLPR
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    It would be awesome if they made a Metric60 bell for the later 4L80E with the detachable bellhousing.

    I've seen a Riviera and I think an Aurora with a 4T80E and an L67. Documentation I've read said you have to remove one of the knock sensors and clearance the block slightly around the bellhousing to make it fit but that's pretty minor work.

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  • SuperBuickGuy
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    Originally posted by CTX-SLPR View Post
    Pretty much all round too. Breaks 4T65E's and 4L60E's as well. I don't think I've heard of them breaking a 4T80E but that was never factory.
    I wonder at 4L80e availability in Australia... that was pretty much a truck-only deal...

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  • CTX-SLPR
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    Originally posted by SuperBuickGuy View Post

    the common theme seems to be good power, shit transmissions.
    Pretty much all round too. Breaks 4T65E's and 4L60E's as well. I don't think I've heard of them breaking a 4T80E but that was never factory.

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  • SuperBuickGuy
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    Originally posted by 65RHDEER View Post
    I'm thinking this one will be nowhere near the NG one, low, no mid 13 with a first pass in the 14's ... The NG one has it's problems also.
    the common theme seems to be good power, shit transmissions.

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  • 65RHDEER
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    I'm thinking this one will be nowhere near the NG one, low, no mid 13 with a first pass in the 14's ... The NG one has it's problems also.

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  • SuperBuickGuy
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    I still think Nugget garage 3800s better

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  • 65RHDEER
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    Continuing on from almost 6 weeks ago

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