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    I know I'm a newb...uhhhh duh. Yeah, I think I know that. But being about cars, this forum's a blast from the past for me. I'm 52 years old, and your priorites change. I didn't think they would, but they did, and they do. I'm an old fart - I toll around in my F-150 and throw groceries on the back of it. Old.

    BUT, Get ready to cuss and curse me - my hotrod as a teenager was a VW BUG. The standard 40-horse aluminum bug block was just too easy to modify without doing any drilling and cutting. You could bolt on oversized cylinder heads, get a stroker crank that barely cleared the block, put in a 6K street cam (as opposed to the stock VW 4K cam), install dual port heads and a couple of 48 IDA Weber carbs, and away you go. Gene Berg tuned headers were a requirement to let it all get out. A 200 mm VW bus clutch fit inside the stock bell housing - you could rev it to the sky and dump it to come out of the hole, and it would tear your head off if you weren't ready.

    Presto. 150 HP versus 40. Serious HP to weight ratio. The thing would pull the front wheels off of the ground coming out of the hole. We'd race between the stoplights back when there was no traffic. I outran Corvettes and all sorts of muscle cars in the short distance. Little did they know, if we went a quarter mile, they'd eat my lunch. But we didn't race that far, so it wasn't at all about top end. All those years ago. Hot rods came in all shapes and sizes.

    I wonder - being out of touch with all of it- is there any street car now that you can more than triple the horsepower with bolt ons, without cutting the engine block?
    Charter member of the Turd Nuggets

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    I don't know about your question, but considering that I race an '82 Escort packin' about 90 hp, I can't imagine that you wouldn't be welcome.

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    • #3
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      Peewee! Great stuff and welcome to the fun.

      Triple the output of a stocker without hacking it up? There are some guys making ungodly power with turbochargers on near stock motors, but doing it the old fashioned way as you did....don't think so!

      Quick bugs on small slicks rule!

      Brian
      That which you manifest is before you.

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        With my ride, I got beat once between the stoplights. It was by another VW Bug, or was it? We cruised up and down the boulevard, and finally go lined up side-by-side at a stoplight. I let it go. I redlined three gears and looked in the mirror. Nobody there. I looked to the right and he was directly beside me, going VROOM, VROOM, VROOM, punching it, playing with me. This guy was not a local - he came to town to race from somewhere else.

        We pulled off and stopped in the turning around place and I got out to examine his ride. It was a Bug body, but it wasn't a Bug. First of all, it had L50 tires on the back, sticking out across both lanes. Ridiculous looking. But under the FRONT of the "Bug," there was a giant set of exhaust headers. It was idling - Taka-da-Takada-Takada. A huge V-8.

        This dude took a '55 Chevy chassis, cut it and narrowed it and somehow made a Bug body fit on it. I told him, "That's not fair!" He said, "Well, you picked it." (As in, which car to race.)
        Charter member of the Turd Nuggets

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        • #5
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          Welcome aboard! I've always been wary of a VW wanting to race. I've seen a POS looking van pull the wheels much to the surprise of the Supra it ate for lunch.
          Escaped on a technicality.

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            Originally posted by peewee
            With my ride, I got beat once between the stoplights. It was by another VW Bug, or was it? We cruised up and down the boulevard, and finally go lined up side-by-side at a stoplight. I let it go. I redlined three gears and looked in the mirror. Nobody there. I looked to the right and he was directly beside me, going VROOM, VROOM, VROOM, punching it, playing with me. This guy was not a local - he came to town to race from somewhere else.

            We pulled off and stopped in the turning around place and I got out to examine his ride. It was a Bug body, but it wasn't a Bug. First of all, it had L50 tires on the back, sticking out across both lanes. Ridiculous looking. But under the FRONT of the "Bug," there was a giant set of exhaust headers. It was idling - Taka-da-Takada-Takada. A huge V-8.

            This dude took a '55 Chevy chassis, cut it and narrowed it and somehow made a Bug body fit on it. I told him, "That's not fair!" He said, "Well, you picked it." (As in, which car to race.)
            Quite a few years ago I thought I had a pretty bad big block street car and to my surprise got blown away by a wheel standing VW.

            Peewee,

            Ever been to English Mnt Dragway in Newport, TN ?


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              [Quite a few years ago I thought I had a pretty bad big block street car and to my surprise got blown away by a wheel standing VW.

              Peewee,

              Ever been to English Mnt Dragway in Newport, TN ?



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              No, I haven't. Sounds like a good ticket if I can talk the wife into it. That's not too far away from here...
              Charter member of the Turd Nuggets

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              • #8
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                Welcome Peewee.....Fast bugs rule.

                Seth
                200 mph or bust.......

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                • #9
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                  Welcome man. Any pics of the bug?

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                  • #10
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                    You gotta realize, this was more than 30 years ago. Before internet. Before mocrowave popcorn. That's what we did for fun. Hot cars. Reckless, at times. Fearless. Young. It's amazing any of us survived, and some didn't.

                    One of the Bug Bunch had a dirt track car. A Karmann Ghia. Actually, by the rules of the track, with less HP than my street car had.

                    The owner was winning the season Mini-Stock points at the track and his wife was about to leave him because of all the time he spent at the shop working on the car. It was an obsession. She was gonna divorce him if he didn't leave the car alone for at least one weekend.

                    So he made amends to his wife by missing the race one weekend, took her on a trip to the beach. But to guard his cards, he had a friend drive the car that weekend to keep up his points. (Do you see the irony here?)

                    The temporary driver drew the pole position and on the opening lap going into Turn One he drove the car through the wall and over the fence and into the parking lot. The car was destroyed and the stand-in driver broke his arm.

                    Morale of the story - The car owner thanked the temp driver for wrecking the car - it saved his marriage...

                    Hot rods. Live with 'em, or without 'em. But if they're in your blood, they're there.
                    Charter member of the Turd Nuggets

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                    • #11
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                      look up the motion thunderbug , driven by bill mitchell

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                        • #13
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                          a buddy had a bug with a killer little motor but his clutch was fried,
                          the day he got the clutch in someone stoled it and took his motor, and new
                          clutch :'( sucky deal i always wondered how it would run when it was right.
                          COBEY..... franklin, kansas

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                          • #14
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                            Mr. Wee (do I know you well enough to call you by your first name?) -
                            I always hated the little devils, but to each his/her own. I lived in Michigan and after cutting up my hands on the cooling system sheet metal and fixing the deheaded little screws that held it on the whole deal pretty much lost it's appeal. Still, I know folks made toms of power with them and had fun. I worked on Toyotas early on (like, 1970) and was always a fond of them, so I guess I was in the other camp.

                            Dan

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                            • #15
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                              There's more to Hot-Rodding than just V8's. Welcome,P/W ;D. ~J/W ;D ;D.

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