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  • Eliteman76
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    Re: Craftsman FAILS vs..... Pitsburg / Harbor freight ratchet?

    -shrug-
    Personally, I'm damn well done and over all the CM bashing BS, so I take it with a grain of salt.
    I have seen a lot of the asia stuff dumped into Sears. Hell, after the whole debacle of Kmart doing bankruptcy, and coming out smelling clean and having the cash to buy sears {seriously, WTF?} and K mart pawns the CM line of tools out to how many different outfits, I give.

    I have a majority of CM hand tools, when I worked for a living doing autobody, pretty much all my hand tools were from sears. I got alot of my air tools from HF, because, it does not take a mathematician to add 2+2 to get 4, when I look at the cases of the air tools, and the only difference I see is a "pittsburg" brand or the CM logo on the side of a reverse engineered Ingersoll-Rand or Cleco air tool from 20 years ago.
    I will say, my 1/2 drive Craftsman impact I bought was a Sears parts store rebuild, and after 15 years of pure abuse {but with constant oiling} it has lived and earned it's spot on a trophy shelf when the time comes.

    As far as the ratchets...I have used, abused, thrown, dunked in gas, antifreeze, oil, type F, snow, rain, and lord knows what else.
    They all because POS, but you know what? It's called, get a snap ring plier, open the case, clean all the crap out, put in some bearing grease, insert parts back in, and thing works like silk now.
    I have a dozen or so ratchets, and if they feel like they bind up some, I tear apart, clean, and grease, and they are good for a while.
    Then again, seems alot of people can't handle if stuff just isn't perfect.
    {off the soap box}
    :

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  • DanStokes
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    This reminds me of ME's violins. You can buy a serviceable fiddle for $100 at a pawn shop. You may be lucky and even get one that'll stay in tune. Or go online and buy one for $150 but it'll be set up wrong and hell to play (or so they tell me).

    She has several fiddles - carbon fiber, an 1800ish, German (nice fiddle but not a big sound), a 1950 German that's for sale (she just doesn't play it), and a 1780s Chappuy (French) that's an AMAZING piece and worth a serious amount of cash. She also has a cheap viola and several other instruments. But they're all tools for purpose. She plays every day and teaches almost every day so having each of these has a purpose and they're all in her tool box.

    I think our tools are the same deal. If Buddy breaks a tool and has to wait a couple of days it's probably not a big deal. But if Min has 10 flat rate hours pending on a job that he can't finish because a tool broke it's costing everyone (Min, the owner, and the Shop) serious money. If ME's viola fails it's no big deal (she doesn't teach viola) but if all of the fiddles are out of commission she can't teach.

    Different needs - different tools.

    Dan

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  • Bigbuds1
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    Originally posted by min301
    Originally posted by SpiderGearsMan
    I split a 24 year old blue point compothane dead blow hammer
    got it replaced with a snap on new style dead blow - free good deal
    Yup, no call to a 1-800, call your dealer.
    No waiting for the mail.
    The wait could be a pain, but I try to have a couple back ups for frequently used stuff.

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  • SpiderGearsMan
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    first question axed
    anything broken today ?

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  • min301
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    Originally posted by SpiderGearsMan
    I split a 24 year old blue point compothane dead blow hammer
    got it replaced with a snap on new style dead blow - free good deal
    Yup, no call to a 1-800, call your dealer.
    No waiting for the mail.

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  • SpiderGearsMan
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    I split a 24 year old blue point compothane dead blow hammer
    got it replaced with a snap on new style dead blow - free good deal

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  • Bigbuds1
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    I have bought a bunch of hand tools from WalMart, Stanley brand. WM is a mile from the house, so I browse and buy. If something breaks (which they do), I call the 800#, saved on my cell, and they are shipped to the house free. No questions asked. :o

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  • min301
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    Originally posted by IRONHEAD
    the issue here is that sears, to stay afloat (wallyworld/h,f/etc)
    has two lines of craftsman tools, in almost everything..
    the cheaper run of the mill stuff(the stuff in most of their stores)
    and the pro line.. that most retail stores don't stock..
    the 89 buck routor is nothing like the 249.oo one I bought.. both craftsman,, but ones made for the woodworker, and one for the guy that might use it 5 times in 20 years..
    even snap on breaks.. but I must say my 1/2 drive swivel long handle ratch. is almost unbreakable..
    best 190.oo I ever spent on a hand tool for sockets

    Even I break them, but they back em, and they bring em over,
    with a phone call, and a smile.
    Even the Pro-line stuff the Craftsman is crap,
    I don't like the feel, the ergonomics, etc.
    Originally posted by dieselgeek
    Originally posted by min301
    I'll stick with the big three.
    If I were using the tools professionally - so would I.

    I do, so I did.
    ;D
    Update me on what we talked about, IM or PM, i don't care.
    Even e-mail me...later Scott.

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  • dieselgeek
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    Originally posted by min301
    I'll stick with the big three.
    If I were using the tools professionally - so would I.

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    Re: Craftsman FAILS vs..... Pitsburg / Harbor freight ratchet?

    the issue here is that sears, to stay afloat (wallyworld/h,f/etc)
    has two lines of craftsman tools, in almost everything..
    the cheaper run of the mill stuff(the stuff in most of their stores)
    and the pro line.. that most retail stores don't stock..
    the 89 buck routor is nothing like the 249.oo one I bought.. both craftsman,, but ones made for the woodworker, and one for the guy that might use it 5 times in 20 years..
    even snap on breaks.. but I must say my 1/2 drive swivel long handle ratch. is almost unbreakable..
    best 190.oo I ever spent on a hand tool for sockets

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  • min301
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    I'll stick with the big three.

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    Originally posted by olbuddybob
    Originally posted by IRONHEAD
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    kolbalt is a sub of snap on..
    Actually, Kobalt is owned by Danaher, who ownes Matco
    I wwas told by the rep. it was snap..
    either way, they are fair toold for the price..

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  • olbuddybob
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    Originally posted by IRONHEAD
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    kolbalt is a sub of snap on..
    Actually, Kobalt is owned by Danaher, who ownes Matco

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  • min301
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    Say what you will, but everything I use daily is
    from the "Big Three".
    Snap-On, MAC, and Matco have taken very good care of
    me over the years, will find specialty stuff(except for the LSI head both chaser ???)
    when its not in their catalog, and not kill me on the prices.

    I have a few Craftsman stuff still, but I mostly don't
    use it cause if I do, it will break, and Sears is on the other side of town.

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    Re: Craftsman FAILS vs..... Pitsburg / Harbor freight ratchet?

    lets see sears 300 piece tool sets 129.oo of course they had to cut somewhere,,
    'sears is owned by the japs now ,(good 10 years now)
    kolbalt is a sub of snap on..
    like everything, you get what you payfor..
    and for 90% of the people the craftman stuff is more than good enough..
    craftmans breaks they replace it..
    harbor frieght isn't everywhere, and 75% of their sales are online, so it breaks it get deep 6'd..
    best tools i've bought are snap on..
    but for most people snap on is overkill..
    just like klein is overkill for the run of the mill diy person..
    but electrical guys don't leave home without them..

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