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  • Hmm...seems the GM CEO doesn't care too much about us car guys...

    Wow...I never thought I'd see the day where a CEO of a major car company would want an tax increase on gas, but here it is in black and white...

    GM's Akerson pushing for higher gas taxes

    David Shepardson and Christina Rogers/ The Detroit News


    Detroit — General Motors Co. CEO Dan Akerson wants the federal gas tax boosted as much as $1 a gallon to nudge consumers toward more fuel-efficient cars, and he's confident the government will soon shed its remaining 26 percent stake in the once-bankrupt automaker.

    "I actually think the government will be out this year — within the next 12 months, hopefully within the next six months," Akerson said in a two-hour interview with The Detroit News last week.

    He is grateful for the government's rescue of GM — "I have nothing but good things to say about them" — but Akerson said the time for that relationship to end is coming because it's wearing on GM.

    "It's kind of like your in-laws: It was a nice long weekend. We didn't say a week," Akerson said with a laugh.

    And while he is eager to say goodbye to the government as a part owner of GM, Akerson would like to see it step up to the challenge of setting a higher gas tax, as part of a comprehensive energy policy.

    A government-imposed tax hike, Akerson believes, will prompt more people to buy small cars and do more good for the environment than forcing automakers to comply with higher gas-mileage standards.

    "There ought to be a discussion on the cost versus the benefits," he said. "What we are going to do is tax production here, and that will cost us jobs."

    For the years 2017-25, federal officials are considering 3 percent to 6 percent annual fuel efficiency increases, or 47 mpg to 62 mpg. That could boost the cost of vehicles by up to $3,500.

    "You know what I'd rather have them do — this will make my Republican friends puke — as gas is going to go down here now, we ought to just slap a 50-cent or a dollar tax on a gallon of gas," Akerson said.

    "People will start buying more Cruzes and they will start buying less Suburbans."

    With gas already over $4 a gallon in parts of the country, a higher gas tax is a hard sell.

    Rebecca Lindland, an analyst with IHS Global Insight, said higher gas taxes in Europe did lead consumers to buy more fuel-efficient cars.

    But she acknowledged that's virtually impossible to see in the United States.

    "It's career suicide for a politician to call for raising gas taxes," Lindland said.

    Akerson isn't the first auto exec to float the idea of a gas tax to encourage consumers to buy fuel-efficient vehicles. Ford Chairman Bill Ford Jr. has previously advocated a gas tax increase.

    On Monday, a Ford spokeswoman said the company "will leave the policy decision to Congress"; in 2009, GM CEO Rick Wagoner called a higher gas tax "worthy of consideration."


    Stock boost sought

    Akerson believes the Treasury's continued ownership stake in GM — 500 million shares — is dragging down its stock price, which has fallen 23 percent this year, and closed Monday at $28.56. That's well below the $33-per-share it fetched in November's $23 billion initial public stock offering.

    "I think that it is an overhang — to have 500 million shares sitting out there — it's a problem," Akerson said, adding that unrest in the Middle East and oil prices also are depressing GM's share price. "They don't know when (the Treasury is) going to come out. Investors hate uncertainty."

    David Whiston, an auto analyst at Morningstar, agrees that government ownership is impacting investors' interest in GM.

    "There are a lot of money managers that are waiting for the government to exit before jumping in," Whiston said.

    The Treasury, which rescued GM with a $49.5 billion bailout and once held a 61 percent majority stake, "will likely look at another (stock) sale in August, after second-quarter earnings are announced, Akerson said.

    The Obama administration has made clear it is eager to exit GM — but hasn't laid out a precise timetable.

    Asked if GM is considering buying back its stock, Akerson paused for eight seconds before declining to answer directly. "But we have a lot of cash," he added.

    At the current stock price, U.S. taxpayers would be out more than $12 billion on GM's bailout. Still, Akerson believes that, in the end, taxpayers will see the government made the right call in saving the automaker, as well as crosstown rival Chrysler.

    "We are in the midst of transforming an iconic American company so 20 and 30 years from now (taxpayers) will look at this company and they'll say, 'Absolutely it was the right thing to do,'" Akerson said. "And it shouldn't be measured on did it sell for $43 or $53 (a share) or did they lose a couple billion dollars?"

    GM was saved, he said, because of the extreme generosity of Americans — a spirit that helped restore Europe and Japan after World War II and rebuild cities such as New Orleans after natural disasters.

    "We're the most generous country, even in terrible times," Akerson said. "We don't walk to the disaster as a nation. … We can't wait to help."

    Things are looking up for GM's image, he said. Pollster Peter Hart, conducting research for GM, found 16 percent had a positive view of GM before the bailout. But that had risen to 65 percent early this year, Akerson said.

    "I couldn't believe the press we got on the IPO — it was like a $100 million gift," Akerson said.

    GM's rebound, he believes, was a "proxy" for the U.S.

    "OK, we took the blow as a nation, we weathered the worst, and my God, we're back," Akerson said. "It's why I came here. It was a story of underdog that tripped as we all have in our lives — it was a good feel-good story."


    Call for tax hikes

    In his interview with The News, Akerson also weighed in on the nation's debt ceiling, saying Congress should raise it from its current $14.3 trillion mark. The government could default on its debt on Aug. 2.

    "We're too good a nation to let ourselves be a banana republic," Akerson said, warning that a default would be "unimaginable" and could hurt auto sales.

    But he agrees with those who say the country has been spending money it can't afford.

    "Now, we need practical decisions," Akerson said. "I think you need to cut the hell out of the budget and you've got to increase taxes … on everybody — including the middle class and the rich people."

    Akerson, who describes himself as "a Colin Powell Republican — not a Sarah Palin Republican" — said President Barack Obama has "done a pretty good job on the economy," which, he said, was "a nightmare.

    "I don't think he can fix it in four years and I think we just have to stay the course," he said.

    Despite his Republican stripes, Akerson is frustrated with the political climate and the media.

    He was invited to appear on CBS' "Face the Nation," but said: "I can't go on it. I'm toxic. I'm like a lightning rod. I couldn't have an intelligent discussion without someone saying, 'He's a welfare guy from the bailout.'"

    But he noted the bipartisan spirit of GM's rescue and the rest of the U.S. auto industry.

    "If we had gone down," he said, "the supply chain would have gone down. … And Ford was hanging on by its fingernails, too."

    GM's failure also would have led to Detroit's collapse, Akerson said. "I have not seen a city in this bad a shape since I went to East Berlin in 1969."


    From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110607/...#ixzz1ObTKqpe8
    Last edited by HillbillySailor2; June 7, 2011, 08:14 AM.
    Formerly Shannon (aka: HillbillySailor). 2549 posts.

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    Something it took me a long time to figure out is,as long as I can keep an older PAID FOR car on the road for less than a new car payment the old car is cheeper to run.
    I can go a long way in my 9mpg Mustang with ZERO car payments.

    Somehow the Media needs to find out that GM pushed for this tax increase in the sameway they jump all over Audi back in the '80s...GM won't sell any cars.


    BTW I have no problem with gas tax if it is used to KEEP THE ROADS REPAIRED! Stop treating gas tax as a sin tax, of course it will be a FUEL tax so diesel will go up to,and so will EVERYTHING we touch. I'll say it again the price of everything goes up when fuel prices rise.
    Last edited by Cyclone03; June 7, 2011, 08:51 AM.

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    • #3
      Oh what the hell, I have a little extra cash this month. I was just gonna blow it so I'll give to uncle sam instead.
      Originally posted by TC
      also boost will make the cam act smaller

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Cyclone03 View Post
        as long as I can keep an older PAID FOR car on the road for less than a new car payment the old car is cheeper to run.
        Can't argue with that logic. That's why my newest car is a 99 model. I buy my cars outright so I don't have to worry about car payments. I've heard somone say that "we're not supporting the auto industry" by doing that. That may be true, but I'm supporting other industrys by keeping my car on the road. That, and the auto industry hasn't made anything in the past 10 years that really make me want to go into debt anyway.
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        • #5
          A government-imposed tax hike, Akerson believes, will prompt more people to buy small cars and do more good for the environment than forcing automakers to comply with higher gas-mileage standards.
          another backwards retard.

          do these guys walk in public expecting no problems like that arizona senator got?

          I'd be some nervous being that stupifyingly bold to the wrong defensive crowd..

          maybe he should suck on my 3 main boxers exhaust.

          lets play hypermiler without the fairy tale...
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          • #6
            When the price of gas went up "all by itself" by a few bucks a gallon, that didn't seem to have much effect on what kind of cars people bought.

            But having the price go up because of a big tax....who knows.....you get into interesting psychology stuff.

            The CAFE rules put the carmakers in an intersting spot. They must know that the way to get good mileage is to make cars lighter and smaller (think Geo Metro). Hence less profitable. They only way they can make money off little shitboxes is to add a lot of "technology" to them, like the prius.

            Interesting article, although I don't think it really shows that GM cares or does not care about "us car guys".
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            • #7
              I can't wait for the Treasury to get out of GM so we can fire this political appointee. I have news for Akerson - the reason investors are shying away from GM is because they don't trust the CEO.
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              • #8
                some seem to forget , Akerson is just a mouth piece the C.E.O. is still our government..
                Akerson, goes against what they want he gets ax,,
                so I gotta ask.. the o/p why you shocked...
                a government run biz. all for higher taxes..

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                • #9
                  obama is the ceo

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                  • #10
                    If GM has heavily invested in Non-Gas or whatever "green cars" then wouldn't it be in their best interest to raise the gas tax and sort of force everyone to buy these new cars?

                    I am not real up on this subject so if I am off base please shoot me down in the usual Bangshift style...

                    ~gail
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                    • #11
                      GM has no small cars that are flex fuel, the Volt as a rather expensive PEV/hybrid, and only one midsize car that is FFV. They dont want you to stop buying gas powered vehicles, they want you to buy something other than trucks so they can get the CAFE standard met easier. A 20mpg truck really throws the whole average in the shitter, and they are still selling lots of them.

                      Around here gas is $4.10 and up, yet all you see in the dealer lots is trucks. Usually 3/4 and 1 ton crew cab 4x4s. There are a few cars, but mostly it is trucks. Now the winter up here is rather brutal for snowfall, so trucks make sense to a certain extent. In places without snow, where the truck never sees anything but pavement, its just added weight you have to drag around. Like Texas and the rest of the south, who needs a 4x4 unless you are a rancher or are always off road, yet what the hell do you see everywhere?

                      He is saying he wants incentive for people to buy something other than trucks, like a Malibu or a Regal to haul the family around. 30-36mpg makes much less of a negative impact on the average than 20mpg or less does. They are limited because there is only so much you can do with gasoline, and most of the energy in it goes out the tailpipe or radiator as waste heat.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LORENSWIFE View Post
                        If GM has heavily invested in Non-Gas or whatever "green cars" then wouldn't it be in their best interest to raise the gas tax and sort of force everyone to buy these new cars?

                        I am not real up on this subject so if I am off base please shoot me down in the usual Bangshift style...

                        ~gail
                        I'm a "let the market decide" kinda guy....If it turns out to be a better product and I can afford it, I'll buy it. I believe it's a better approach than having the government dictate my behavior through raising or lowering taxes. It's usually artificial anyway.
                        Originally posted by TC
                        also boost will make the cam act smaller

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                        • #13
                          The Unemployment rate is 9.1% and headed for 10% and those figures don't really reflect the true rate of unemployment and then we have some Jackass CEO wanting to raise the price of gas by up to a Dollar a gallon (which will stifle the Economy even more) so the "unemployed" and other people will buy the unwanted Green cars that GM is producing so he can look like a Hero, good luck on that! I really do hate to be the nay-sayer guy here but I'm having trouble seeing any light at the end of this tunnel, now go ahead and let me have it but that's the way I see things! I also vote for the 9 mpg & no payment plan and if GM or any automaker is waiting for me to buy new, sorry about their bad luck!
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                          • #14
                            Akerson knows nothing but a balance sheet. He wouldn't know or understand good automotive product if it drove straight up his ass. Mark Reuss is the guy they need to get into the driver's seat. He's freaking brilliant, knows the car business, is both a strong financial mind and a lover of cars, and makes Akerson look like the expensive suited accountant he actually is.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Grumpy View Post
                              The Unemployment rate is 9.1% and headed for 10% and those figures don't really reflect the true rate of unemployment and then we have some Jackass CEO wanting to raise the price of gas by up to a Dollar a gallon (which will stifle the Economy even more) so the "unemployed" and other people will buy the unwanted Green cars that GM is producing so he can look like a Hero, good luck on that! I really do hate to be the nay-sayer guy here but I'm having trouble seeing any light at the end of this tunnel, now go ahead and let me have it but that's the way I see things! I also vote for the 9 mpg & no payment plan and if GM or any automaker is waiting for me to buy new, sorry about their bad luck!

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                              BRAVO Phil! I agree 100%
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