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  • A fork in the road

    The last year has been... interesting. A couple of things are coming down the tube- the big one being whether or not I get a field training slot for AFROTC (Getting a field training slot is the turning point in ROTC. No field training slot == no ROTC, no scholarship, school gets becomes a heckuva lot harder to pay for). I should know about that sometime in March.

    I did get clearance from Dad to sell the Focus, and I will be trying to get rid of that at the end of the school year. In the last year I haven't had much time at all to work on the Escort. Right now it sits with the engine next to it all taken apart. I honestly have been having trouble getting any motivation to go work on the car. My Dad doesn't oppose what I am doing with the car, but he doesn't have any passion for it either. We do have a mutual passion for aviation, and Dad has always wanted to build a plane. There is a particular plane, a Sonerai 2L, that we have looked at building before. Nice lines, originally designed for racing. Throw in a peppy little VW flat four and the right prop and you can see north of 200 mph in level flight, and burn maybe 5 gallons an hour at a 150-160 mph cruise.

    Even though I won't be enough to work on the plane, Dad will be and it would be something we could work on together. In the end I would get the plane, since Dad is more interested in the build stage than the flight stage. He likes the plane he already has, but can't tinker on because of aviation rules. All that is good but the elephant in the room is the Escort. I can't have two projects. Both from the taking up space aspect and the trying to juggle two different major financial commitments. I am kind of at a loss of what to do. So, I am looking for thoughts- what would you do? Racecar or plane? Bonneville once a year or anywhere I want to go, whenever I feel like?

    The last year has also made me value my family more. My sister lives in Texas. My Grandfather is in the early stages of alzheimers. Over the last year and a half I have spent less than three months at home, and some that I was the only one here. I don't know if I'll get much more chance to work on stuff with Dad, especially stuff that we both love equally.

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    With that sort of a "choice," .... FLY. Anybody can mash a gas pedal. Not everybody can fly.
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    • #3
      Life has a way of happening real fast once you get past 25 or so. It passes at a pace I didn't believe until I've experienced it. Blink, and weeks - sometimes months, even years - go by. All that stuff that gets set aside for a bit, you realize that "bit" has been years. You can always get another car to tinker with and race. You don't get time with your dad back. Ever.
      I'm probably wrong

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      • #4
        fly - it's racing in 3d
        Doing it all wrong since 1966

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        • #5
          Originally posted by tedly View Post
          You don't get time with your dad back. Ever.
          There it is. Believe it. Nothing was ever more true. Yep, there it is. Well done Tedly. Truth in words.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by peewee View Post
            There it is. Believe it. Nothing was ever more true. Yep, there it is. Well done Tedly. Truth in words.
            Very well said - I wished I'd spent more time with my Dad before he got ill. Don't waste this time to hang out together.
            Phil / Omaha

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            • #7
              (Sounding like a Tedly Echo!!!)

              I wish the time I spend with my dad , which is a lot really, didn't make me so crazy... but hey, any time you can take your dad to pick up a 26 year old Red head with you, it's all good.

              The Red head was a Honda. Grin. I think I'd go for the flying thingy, you can always get another car. I'd take the time to spend with my dad even if he does make me insane some times. He's 81 and smoked and drank most of his life so I guess I'm lucky to have had him this long and value the time we get to spend. You won't ever regret that.
              Last edited by Beagle; December 18, 2011, 08:09 AM.
              Flying south, with a flock of bird dogs.

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              • #8
                My dad was so straightforward, so conventional, so traditional. Morals and rules. Naturally as a teenager I "disappointed" him a whole lot. The lectures that didn't sink in, all of it.

                But it was the Mark Twain quote all over again - the older I got the smarter my dad became. He was right, SO right, the whole time. I miss him a lot, always will.

                Yeah, take advantage of whatever time you have with him, and know that it's golden, and irreplacable.
                Last edited by pdub; December 18, 2011, 12:03 PM.
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                • #9
                  relax and get a job first

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                  • #10
                    I helped complete a Coot Amphibian and flew it in 1989. From then until '92 me and my cousin went halves on a '47 Luscombe 8F that we finished and flew to OshKosh.

                    Then I went to college and sold my half, which I regret, as I ran out of money to finish school so it was a waste of money altogether.

                    It looks like a sonerai is a tube and aluminum aircraft? That seems a good choice - I liked working with aluminum a HELUVA lot better than working with composites on the Coot. However, I preferred the high wing airplane for "fun" versus the faster low wing options out there... going 200mph is only fun if you can fly IFR and travel with the plane, in which case you might prefer a Van's RV series - what about an RV12?

                    Also, look into the Corvair engine, it's a smoother and relatively cheap alternative to the VW. The other plane you might be interested in is a Sonex... make note that the more popular planes like the Sonex have better pre-punched and die cut parts that make assembly go faster.

                    Sounds like fun, I wish like hell my dad was into building planes, I'd be finishing an RV-8 by now if he was! lol.

                    Keep us posted.

                    -Scott
                    www.realtuners.com - catch the RealTuners Radio Podcast on Youtube, Facebook, iTunes, and anywhere else podcasts are distributed!

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                    • #11
                      Yeah, the fuselage is welded 4130 covered with fabric. The cowl comes pre-formed in fiberglass, and the wings are all 2024T3. If I could choose any engine I would want the corvair plant, but the VW is a lot more affordable and would have less fuel burn. for starters we talked about setting it up for day/night VFR. I don't have my IFR ticket yet (or my tailwheel checkout, or any time in something fast/agile), though I probably will by the time we get it flying. Dad and I talked and we are going to drop an engine back in the Escort, throw lights on it and actually get a street title on it. I'll either drive it or sell it, but right now I can't do either. It'll give me a car for the summer and maybe beyond.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 98ciHemi View Post
                        Dad and I talked and we are going to drop an engine back in the Escort, throw lights on it and actually get a street title on it. I'll either drive it or sell it, but right now I can't do either. It'll give me a car for the summer and maybe beyond.
                        This was going to be my advice. Sounds like you already have it sorted.

                        As much as I like the flying idea......... you still need a car after you get to whichever airport. A good friend of mine did the airplane gig, was a plane mechanic for a bunch of years too. Sold it to buy a house, wife, kids, never looked back.

                        He compares planes to horses - no offense to horse people, I just wouldn't want to do the horse gig either.
                        Of all the paths you take in life - make sure a few of them are dirt.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by STINEY View Post
                          This was going to be my advice. Sounds like you already have it sorted.

                          As much as I like the flying idea......... you still need a car after you get to whichever airport. A good friend of mine did the airplane gig, was a plane mechanic for a bunch of years too. Sold it to buy a house, wife, kids, never looked back.

                          He compares planes to horses - no offense to horse people, I just wouldn't want to do the horse gig either.
                          Flying is a bit different for my family. Dad got his start in the Guard as an aircraft mechanic. While he was in the guard he got his pilot license and after build hours, became a flight instructor. In the mid 80's he was a member of a flying club at Detroit Metro where he met my Mother. Their first date was changing oil on a Cessna. He worked on and off as a flight instructor since while he worked for Ford. When he retired and we moved up here he started flying for the national forestry service flying mostly fire patrol, and a few other things. He now runs a semi-active flight school on the field here, and still flies for the forest service over the summer.

                          So, without aviation the whole wife/kids/house thing wouldn't have happened the same way. My entire life has revolved around flying.

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                          • #14
                            Have fun with Dad. You'll never regret it.

                            The Escort can go... you wanted a V8 anyway. Trust me on this, I did the thinking for you.



                            Everything I ever built, I learned how from my Dad.... then again, he's into wooden boats, so I'm screwed.
                            Yes, I'm a CarJunkie... How many times would YOU rebuild the same engine before getting a crate motor?




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                            • #15
                              I think you have the right idea with getting the engine back in the car to drive on the street. And I think I speak for many here when I say go out and enjoy time with your Dad. Build that airplane and have fun....but don't get rid of the car if you can help it. This is your first car (or an evolved version of your first car). Alot of us here would kill to have our first cars back if we could get them. I understand that time and space may be an issue, but if you can swing it, set the car up in "long term storage mode" in an unused corner once you're finished driving it. You may not have the passion for it right now, but it won't always be that way. Just something to consider.
                              Formerly Shannon (aka: HillbillySailor). 2549 posts.

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