KIA - Keep It Awsum, cause Gary said so

[smiti99]

The timing chain thing wouldn't be so bad if you could leave it in the car. The cam gears fail all the time and it doesn't pay well.

[SpiderGearsMan]

can't see working at toyota being very good now that they switched to timing chains
was going downhill , when I left in 2001

[smiti99]

Yeah, there is a significant percent of people not spending on maintenance. It's all quick lube nowadays, people aren't even interested in full services. Traffic has been getting thin since the pedal recalls, which is crazy. Not only was there nothing wrong with the cars, but people put that 6 sets of floor mats right back on the floor! Anyway, people seem to be tightening their belts, buying the cheapest tires they can find, going wherever the $19 oil change is, etc.

[ls7gto]

Cant make money in a toyota shop? The Toy techs do well over 3 times the gravy maintenance work than we do in a Ford dealership.
I can't comment on the Kia deal, never delt with the newer stuff , wasnt really found of the Mazda based stuff. Of course , I hate the Ford /mazda based junk, and Im not even gonna mention the nissan /ford nightmares.

[smiti99]

I could go on about the latest campaign being only number 93, for all KIA models since import started in 1994. I just think it's unfair to bash them based on assumptions. I worked on them, I own one, I know better. I did call you out, because you haven't backed up a thing you said. Sorry you're the one who did that, we knew someone was going to. Most of KIA's bad rep is due to people who just don't know any better. Just wanted to prove it when I saw the opportunity, nothing personal.

They aren't so bad, but Gary's comercials sure aren't helping.

[SpiderGearsMan]

GM doesn't sell the stripped down korea boxes that trade deficit fueled kia ships to the USA ..if you want to pee yourself over how great the recall laden kiayundai is ..knock yourself out ...I am the first one to mouth off about GM antics and unfair compensation , as well as scamming the customer , so much so I have left the trade , but to waste bandwidth on a notable shitbox like kia ...I don't know

[SpiderGearsMan]

called out for what ?

[BOOOGHAR]

looks like someone got called out - LOL

[smiti99]

Chevy VS KIA base prices in comparable models...
Chevy Sonic - $13865 KIA Rio - $13400
Chevy Cruize - $16800 KIA Forte - $15200
Chevy Malibu - $22110 KIA Optima - $21000
Chevy Equinox - $23530 KIA Sportage - $18500
Chevy Traverse - $29510 KIA Sorento - $23150

KIA has no full size trucks, RWD cars or compact EV. Chevy has no midsize hybrid or minivan offering.

Chevy basic warranty 3yr/36,000mi KIA 5yr/60,000mi
Chevy powertrain warranty 5yr/100,000mi KIA 10yr/100,000mi
Chevy roadside 5yr/100,000mi KIA 5yr/60,000mi
Help me out here, where are you coming from on this?

[SpiderGearsMan]

kias cost more than chevys

[smiti99]

I was averaging 60 hrs a week working on them. Those were the good days. Now I work on Toyotas and I swear it's harder to make a paycheck. By 'better engineered' do you mean over-engineered? I haven't been impressed with any of Chevys' offerings in the sub-40K range.

[Caveman Tony]

I think that accident Busey had way back when mighta shook loose a few connections inside his helmet.

That boy jus' ain't right.

[SpiderGearsMan]

for the same price , you can have a better engineered chevrolet or if you want to be an import rat , a honda
kia pays crappy , we had them for 8 months and you could not make a dime on them

[smiti99]

horrendous joke of a car ..When Notchevrolet lost the franchise and switched to KIA , My toolbox left tire tracks ..

Were you scared? They aren't that bad, after I worked for our KIA store a couple years I bought one. The older, Mazda-based platforms were the bad examples. Since the were bought by Hyundai, they are a completely different product. Parts even interchange cross-platform, if you know where to look. Some of them, like mine, are unbelievably easy to work on.

[Beagle]

along with the Mayhem commercials, these crack me up ...