Any update on the M-800 manual trans?

[Schtauffer]

Ill sell the GTO, before I put an automatic in it!

I have a good working 700R-4 you can have, Doug.

You were right about putting a stick-box in the Monte-- I love it so much, now I want to put one in the Chevelle, too!

[Schtauffer]

Could you cite the report that states this? Not doubting, just would like to read it for myself. There are a number of good gear manufacturers in the US (Jerico, Emco, etc) but I'm guessing that a full syncro gearset is needed for these street bound vehicles, and that this is not their forte. Also, I'm thinking that the price point for these gearboxes is pretty high (our used Jerico 4 speed in the LSR car was only 2200$ with my choice of gears) and that supply/demand projections didn't look profitable. The gear availability claim might just be a convenient place to lay the blame for the failure of the overall project. vic

I'm fairly certain it was on the McLeod forum that I read about this. The forum is down right now so I can't pull it up, so I am afraid I cannot verify this right now. As I recall, Billy was saying they could have had the gearsets made in the US, but it would have driven the price up beyond what would have been competitive with the TKO, and therefore they calculated that they would not be able to sell enough units to turn a profit. Rather than outsource the gearsets, they chose to put a hold on the project.

[ls7gto]

rockland has upgraded t56 for less than tranzilla [which was 6500 bucks last I heard ]

liberty face plated t56 -2600 bucks
go with an automatic

Ill sell the GTO, before I put an automatic in it!

[SpiderGearsMan]

lenco

[SuperBuickGuy]

rockland has upgraded t56 for less than tranzilla [which was 6500 bucks last I heard ]

liberty face plated t56 -2600 bucks
go with an automatic

it's difficult to make an automatic live on the street behind a turbo car. it's only slightly less difficult to live with a non-syncro'd manual transmission.

[SpiderGearsMan]

rockland has upgraded t56 for less than tranzilla [which was 6500 bucks last I heard ]

liberty face plated t56 -2600 bucks
go with an automatic

[krusty]

It is a shame that a product failed to make it to the market because they could not find a supplier in the USA capable of making gearsets to the required standard at a price that the market could bear. A real shame.

Could you cite the report that states this? Not doubting, just would like to read it for myself. There are a number of good gear manufacturers in the US (Jerico, Emco, etc) but I'm guessing that a full syncro gearset is needed for these street bound vehicles, and that this is not their forte. Also, I'm thinking that the price point for these gearboxes is pretty high (our used Jerico 4 speed in the LSR car was only 2200$ with my choice of gears) and that supply/demand projections didn't look profitable. The gear availability claim might just be a convenient place to lay the blame for the failure of the overall project. vic

[TheSilverBuick]

For the price of a transzilla, I can Have skeet at G-force build me one. I have a rule to have more $$$ in my engine than my transmission! lol

Haha, I know that rule! When I was a broke college student trying to afford building a 455 for the Skylark, I plunked down my savings for a TKO-600. I think I had $2200 in the transmission (and clutch, etc) and only around $1500 in the engine. The engine only lasted 50 miles, d'oh! But I have well over 40,000 on the transmission now. COMPLETELY worth it.

[ls7gto]

For the price of a transzilla, I can Have skeet at G-force build me one. I have a rule to have more $$$ in my engine than my transmission! lol

[SpiderGearsMan]

I pass there shop quite often, they have some nice cars in the lobby!

good guys to deal with , but hey , the kit guys with the hurst name ain't the only game in town

[ls7gto]

I been thinking about Keislers rs-600. all the features of a TKO , plus some others.

http://www.keislerauto.com/recent-news/keisler-t45-rs-5-speed-for-gm-ford-a-mopar-classic-cars.html

[Huskinhano]

http://www.rsgear.com/products/trans...remec-t56.aspx

I pass there shop quite often, they have some nice cars in the lobby!

[Schtauffer]

It is a shame that a product failed to make it to the market because they could not find a supplier in the USA capable of making gearsets to the required standard at a price that the market could bear. A real shame.

[Silver68RT]

I imagine with relatively small outfits like this, tackling something as complex as designing and manufacturing a new transmission, if something goes wrong - you could be out of business. The investment must be huge to do something like this. I don't know if they did a whole run of cases, and then found out they leak, or just made a few prototypes. It was really hard to track down information.

I'd still buy one, and the Charger isn't even in the on-deck project slot, so I can wait.

[SpiderGearsMan]

do what new process did - cast iron case