"No amount of plastic can make the gen v attractive."
Most certainly when Ford responds with GDI (Coyote heads are already "protected" for this feature), it will make for an interesting match-up between the always homely "Government Motors" pushrod lump and the drop-dead-gorgeous DOHCs.
The only '13 GT500 I've actually seen "in the steel" was a showroom ornament with a fully-loaded $67,000 sticker that was already sold to a "friend" of the dealer within minutes of its arrival (for well over sticker, of course).
According to the dealer's son, they have no idea when or even if they'll get another one. Now this is a small-town dealer who doesn't have much Mustang "allocation" (Ford insiders will know what that means). But it points a few big problems:
1. Demand will likely far outstrip supply.
2. Dealers will gouge customers on the price.
3. Spidey's point -- there are plenty of ways to go just as quick and fast on a lot less money (albeit not with a full OEM warranty, insurance, 50-state emissions compliance, installment financing, daily driver reliability, etc.)
Now if someone simply bought a base 5.0, a Hellion turbo kit and support parts, a built shortblock and the necessary safety and driveline upgrades, I strongly suspect they'd out perform the '13 GT500 for a lot less investment.
That being said, it's great that Ford (and GM) are taking a last shot at blue-collar supercars before the 54 m.p.g. CAFE law shuts all this OEM fun down.
100% right on the money here. We have a big Ford dealer here and he gets a few of the premium cars from Ford every year. His mark up depending on the car averages 10 to 15K from what I have seen.
Give it a year or two and the 13's will be for sale much like the 08's are now.
There is no doubt with the right parts, know how and a lot less money a base 5.0 could be made to run with this big dog.
Looking A Bit Closer At The new Small Block
July 16th, 2012
www.GMInsideNews.com
by: Alex Villani
Photo Credit: Buffalo Business Journal
Last week, the Buffalo Business Journal did a small write up about the Tonawanda Engine Plant producing the next-generation V8 engines and even snapped a...
Yup, guys were running stock 5.0 short blocks with good heads and boosted running 9's
One could build a real nice car for what a 500 will go for with the dealers surcharcharge.
I know there are some running the stock Coyote short block with success, but to really be a true comparison (with OEM bulletproof reliability), I'd want the stout rods and forged pistons swapped in. Then guys like DG could really break some transmissions with the tune . . . .
The only '13 GT500 I've actually seen "in the steel" was a showroom ornament with a fully-loaded $67,000 sticker that was already sold to a "friend" of the dealer within minutes of its arrival (for well over sticker, of course).
According to the dealer's son, they have no idea when or even if they'll get another one. Now this is a small-town dealer who doesn't have much Mustang "allocation" (Ford insiders will know what that means). But it points a few big problems:
1. Demand will likely far outstrip supply.
2. Dealers will gouge customers on the price.
3. Spidey's point -- there are plenty of ways to go just as quick and fast on a lot less money (albeit not with a full OEM warranty, insurance, 50-state emissions compliance, installment financing, daily driver reliability, etc.)
Now if someone simply bought a base 5.0, a Hellion turbo kit and support parts, a built shortblock and the necessary safety and driveline upgrades, I strongly suspect they'd out perform the '13 GT500 for a lot less investment.
That being said, it's great that Ford (and GM) are taking a last shot at blue-collar supercars before the 54 m.p.g. CAFE law shuts all this OEM fun down.
9.70s and he left like grandma driving to church. Dang. I love the sound of that thing during the burnout!
All of it. I don't know anything about drag racing yet, but on the first view I picked up on the start, too. Green....okay, so go dude....uhhh, okay, go, okay?
But I guess that doesn't matter if you're running by yourself? If he'd been in a race, he'dda got treed like Cheetah being chased by a lion. But he probably woulda passed them anyhow along the way.
Lingenfelter has an LSX 427 in a new Camaro that ran 8.97, got the poster in the garage. That time is probably from last season though, so could be faster. There is no denying new engines their due, but I still love my BBC.
Last edited by Supersport350; July 18, 2012, 12:27 PM.
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