so what car do you want today ?

[JOES66FURY]

same as every other day...The photo of this tripple black beauty came from our pal Scott, who tourtures me regularly with pics of what he knows to be my dream car. Its funny but I just NEVER see these around here...he comes across them all the time...

Visually I would not change a thing except for some widened poncho wheels with bigger meat out back...otherwise this is as perfect as it gets for me.

[JOES66FURY]

The endurance racing headlamp covers SCREAM Mulsanne Straight . . . Spa . . . Daytona! Don't you DARE touch 'em!

the more I look the more they grow on me....

[Eagle Kammback]

I really want a Lada, any Lada, but preferably a Niva

[38P]

same as every other day...The photo of this tripple black beauty came from our pal Scott, who tourtures me regularly with pics of what he knows to be my dream car. Its funny but I just NEVER see these around here...he comes across them all the time...

Visually I would not change a thing except for some widened poncho wheels with bigger meat out back...otherwise this is as perfect as it gets for me.

That's a '70 . . .

I've owned a '69 Grand Prix SJ since 1981 . . . another neglected garage refugee. 72,XXX miles . . . 370-horse 428 with a few easily reversible bolt-ons . . . dead factory paint . . . a wrinkled passenger door courtesy of the first Mrs. Outsider (She's a Prius driver . . . that says it all) . . . last licensed in 1987 . . . .

It's not nice enough to show . . .

it's too heavy and not quick enough to race (cast iron rods are the Achilles heel of the REAL poncho mill) . . .

The compression with the iron D-port heads means you have to retard the timing too much for today's weak tea pump gas for cruising . . .

10-12 m.p.g. means the gasoline stops were too frequent . . .

It's still not worth enough for a pure frame-off resto . . .

And nearly all of the muscle car snobs don't recognize it as a true '60s muscle car, anyhow . . . .

Still, DeLorean's '69 Grand Prix was the first of the low-priced neo-classic coupes. And perhaps the styling is over-the-top in retrospect, but it was gorgeous back in the day. And one whale of a good wrapper for a "Gentlemens' GTO."

But if anything I own ever tempts me to seriously fly the GM flag again, it's my old Grand Prix . . . even more so than the Biscayne . . . .

[JOES66FURY]

That's a '70 . . .

I've owned a '69 Grand Prix SJ since 1981 . . . another neglected garage refugee. 72,XXX miles . . . 370-horse 428 with a few easily reversible bolt-ons . . . dead factory paint . . . a wrinkled passenger door courtesy of the first Mrs. Outsider (She's a Prius driver . . . that says it all) . . . last licensed in 1987 . . . .

It's not nice enough to show . . .

it's too heavy and not quick enough to race (cast iron rods are the Achilles heel of the REAL poncho mill) . . .

The compression with the iron D-port heads means you have to retard the timing too much for today's weak tea pump gas for cruising . . .

10-12 m.p.g. means the gasoline stops were too frequent . . .

It's still not worth enough for a pure frame-off resto . . .

And nearly all of the muscle car snobs don't recognize it as a true '60s muscle car, anyhow . . . .

Still, DeLorean's '69 Grand Prix was the first of the low-priced neo-classic coupes. And perhaps the styling is over-the-top in retrospect, but it was gorgeous back in the day. And one whale of a good wrapper for a "Gentlemens' GTO."

But if anything I own ever tempts me to seriously fly the GM flag again, it's my old Grand Prix . . . even more so than the Biscayne . . . .

well, if you ever tire of it...I will be more than happy to give it a good home....

[38P]

well, if you ever tire of it...I will be more than happy to give it a good home....

I'm sure they'll auction it at my estate sale (shaking their heads about all the weird crap I held on to and never got around to fixing up) . . . or the IRS will seize it if I have too many more tax years like 2012!

[OHC 6 Sprint]

same as every other day...The photo of this tripple black beauty came from our pal Scott, who tourtures me regularly with pics of what he knows to be my dream car. Its funny but I just NEVER see these around here...he comes across them all the time...

Visually I would not change a thing except for some widened poncho wheels with bigger meat out back...otherwise this is as perfect as it gets for me.

Driving that beauty is like driving a Cadillac with a 4-speed.

455 HO, hood tach, 12-bolt BOP posi ... ah, the memories!

I had one like that a few years back that eventually went to a buyer in Florida who had to have it more than I did. Since I had a bunch of GTOs at the time, the GP was kinda the odd Poncho in the herd. But the back seat was like a queen sized bed and the wrap-around dash was (IMHO) far nicer than the GTO dash.

Good pic ... thanks for that!

[squirrel]

(" When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things . . . .")

The brand bashing is rather childish....but if you can get over that, one day you might be a man.

[Bamfster]

I changed my mind, now I want this:

[38P]

Driving that beauty is like driving a Cadillac with a 4-speed.

455 HO, hood tach, 12-bolt BOP posi ... ah, the memories!

I had one like that a few years back that eventually went to a buyer in Florida who had to have it more than I did. Since I had a bunch of GTOs at the time, the GP was kinda the odd Poncho in the herd. But the back seat was like a queen sized bed and the wrap-around dash was (IMHO) far nicer than the GTO dash.

Good pic ... thanks for that!

Mine just has a ten-bolt Saf-t-Track because it's a TH400.

But it's been sitting for the past twenty-eight years on a corporate 10-bolt instead of the OEM BOP. An axle bearing munched and lightly scored one of the axle shafts. No biggie. But because of my grad school/work schedule, the weather and having no place to work, I had to have it towed to a garage.

The garage guys lied, said it wasn't fixable, and installed a cheap, open A-body axle from a salvage. But I demanded my original parts and they angrily charged me a $25 core for return of my original limited-slip axle (they were planning on stealing it for one of their project cars) . . . it's been out of the car ever since. But I've still got it . . . .

[NightShifter]

Of coarse there's no phone number...

[PatricksDad]

LS1/T56 "570Z"

[silver_bullet]

1969 Impala Custom 427 4 speed I have only seen 1 in person...

[38P]

Love the hidden headlamps and the fender skirts (always wondered if the bean counters killed 'em for the '69 GP)

[38P]

Papa Outsider (RIP) had a junky '68 Caprice with a 325-horse 396 and a four-speed . . . strange combo. Title erroneously called it a "Caprice SS." He scored it cheap from a dude who couldn't pay his rent in a slummy apartment complex.

I strongly suspect the Rat and Muncie ended up in a Gen I Camaro and the balance got crushed by the clueless guys we sold it to in the estate liquidation. A likely sad fate for an assembly-line oddity.