2014 chevy cruze turbo diesel

[tardis454]

funny, around here all the techs bitch about is vw wiring issues,

That's no bullshit..

New VW = Gesamtsumme Müll (Total Garbage)

People working in the 'repair' business (not one of them chump tuner shops) know this as fact. Example.. My friend had a 1.8T Bug in his shop a few weeks ago. It came in with a bad plastic water pump, yes plastic, a bad timing belt tensioner, & his scanner picked up a laundry list of codes for various failed & intermittent sensors, some of them replaced during a previous visit. The customer had a Bug prior to this one that got totaled. My friend told him not to buy another one, said even a Kia would be better. Guy didn't listen, now he visits my buddy's shop on a regular basis for a variety of FarFromFixedandRunning VW issues. He told me that Bug makes him $500-$1000 in labor costs every visit..

That being said I wish the yard had good 1.8/2.0 VW motors to sell. With all the calls I get for them I could sell them daily & retire by the end of the year.

Old VW on the other hand ain't that bad. They shoulda stuck with what they had, cheap, easy to work on, simple cars, but instead they embraced expensive, hard to repair, unreliable & worthless when the timing belt skips a tooth FAIL! Better yet, stick with air-cooled, that's one thing VW made that was remotely close to being bulletproof!

Ask STINEY!

[realsteelfreak]

My son tells me that a lot of new GM cars ,suv's have engine blocks and heads made by Honda. Honda stamp ,Honda warranty bulletins .
True?

[Beagle]

that's in return for the Isuzu / Truck deal of the early 90's I think. The original deal that was publicized was that Honda needed an SUV so they bought and labeled GM engined Isuzu trucks while they were developing the 3.5 v6 that they (honda) then provided back to GM for things like the Saturn Vue. Honda engine, Aisin transmission. I was looking at the dimensions on that mill and wondering about the Chevette. It'd probably be a sick little bastich with a turbo.

[dand38s]

I do work for a GM dealer and have for 30+ years. The Cruze have been good little cars. We do not have that many problems with them. Yes they do have some recalls and service updates but try to find a vehicle that doesn't. The diesel engine has been used in production vehicles in Europe for years. The biggest concern I have about the diesel Cruze is that the diesel exhaust fluid tank is in the trunk under the trunk mat. I can see a whole lot of spilling when people try to fill the tank. It also means that you would either have to keep the trunk clean or empty it out every time you needed fluid.

[realsteelfreak]

I do work for a GM dealer and have for 30+ years. The Cruze have been good little cars. We do not have that many problems with them. Yes they do have some recalls and service updates but try to find a vehicle that doesn't. The diesel engine has been used in production vehicles in Europe for years. The biggest concern I have about the diesel Cruze is that the diesel exhaust fluid tank is in the trunk under the trunk mat. I can see a whole lot of spilling when people try to fill the tank. It also means that you would either have to keep the trunk clean or empty it out every time you needed fluid.

Needs a remote fill,but thinking about it ,probably didn't wind up on the outside because some numb nuts would put gas in the def tank,IMHO .

He was bragging on the v6 cop cars ,said they was turnedWFO.

[SpiderGearsMan]

Then I'd guess you don't work at a GM dealership? Look up the TSBs on the gasoline cruze's. My buddy's had to have holes drilled in the bellypan, because the oil that leaks collects there and catches on fire. That's a mandatory recall for all of them! His also had a cracked manifold at 40,000 miles, which got replaced. After the warranty replacement, it was misfiring and ended up needing the coilpacks replaced...?

I'm a realist, I'd drive the diesel in a heartbeat but I don't have a lot of faith in domestics other than pickup trucks, which is where most of the development money goes in OEM vehicles. That, and minivans. The cars don't get much development or testing. I rode in a prototype Cadillac ATS the other day, I did like that.

I have experience with a 2001 VW TDI Jetta and that car kicked ass save for a few simple to fix electrical problems, loved it. Would consider a brand new TDI Jetta over a Cruze diesel because the current version has been out for a while and hopefully the bugs have been worked out. Neither Chevy's entry level cars, nor VW's entry level cars have great track records for quality though.

Mr Notwrench ...we had a recall where WE CUT that section away..since it took a few minutes to zing it ...not really notice it

[Barry Donovan]

Old VW on the other hand ain't that bad. They shoulda stuck with what they had, cheap, easy to work on, simple cars, but instead they embraced expensive, hard to repair, unreliable & worthless when the timing belt skips a tooth FAIL! Better yet, stick with air-cooled, that's one thing VW made that was remotely close to being bulletproof!

Ask STINEY!

no doubt.

cars are pro life or not.. durable or junk. Never in history has a small engine had an overhead and will continue for so long, and it does not even have homogenous fires.
for companies to build things that suck, something is not right about a countrys sovereignty...and that gets complicated.

fear of being a leader while knowing the problem, it always erupts a change instead of a normal realistic one.

anyway, the boxer is still a peace sign for good reason, I hope the diesel, little ones, earn that too. They are not stupid anymore. boost is proper, and controls..

I was thinking of all the little ones I drove.
a rabbit diesel, a jetta, and a nissan pickup which strangely found its way into America (those are legendary, I understood how- just drive one). To think those were the 80s, early 80s junk.. today ought to be way better.

[dieselgeek]

Mr Notwrench ...we had a recall where WE CUT that section away..since it took a few minutes to zing it ...not really notice it

Interesting, you didn't mention this global recall before? Why is it necessary? because the cars all leak oil and catch on fire. So you cut off the bellypan (plastic, of course) which then kills all the aero and how many MPG? So the leaking oil just drains out from under the car? Ironically, this is the "Cruze ECO" model. Sounds like an awesome design to me.

I rest my case. Keep trying, GM. Perhaps you'll get it one day!

[Beagle]

no man, say it ain't so... a Chevrolet that leaks oil? NO F*ING WAY!

/ed

So I went and found the Motor Trend review -

CURB WEIGHT 3500 lb (mfr)
ouch.

[yellomalibu]

A while back, I was looking at mpg cars, and how they are rated... perhaps it was in consumer reports, I don't recall. Anyway, the 5 year cost (including price of the car AND the fuel you'd use) was surprising. The more expensive VW diesel was on the top of the list.

Depending on how much driving you do, and how long you plan on keeping the car, the diesels seem to be the better economic choice.

[Beagle]

my f250 7.3 has been pretty good about 20mpg mixed city / hwy recently, which is hugely better than the 15 the F150's 351 gets but with 20 quart oil changes v. 5 quart changes, it starts to become a "what am I doing" thing. I'd rather pull a trailer with the diesel.

46 v. almost everything else's 40 ... but I hear the VW guys claiming 50 all the time. In the flatlands here, I could see it. That is a total fatass of a ride though! I'm still shocked by curb weights on these really safe cars. That thing weighs like a Chevelle Wagon!

[SpiderGearsMan]

all that airbag support costs weight

[DanStokes]

I'm not sure if the Cruze driveline is related to the HHR or not but I think it might be. Anyhow, ME's HHR is a little tank and leaks/uses NOTHING. Absolutely dry underneath. We just ran up about 6K miles on it going from coast to coast and back again. Average 28.4 MPG, much at WOT up mountains.

I'm hoping the Cruze (or is it Cruz?) Diesel turns out to be OK as I'd love to have one. I NEVER buy a first-year driveline, even used, as there's likely to be issues to get ironed out. Fingers crossed for GM.

Dan

[SuperBuickGuy]

they drive nice.... but no manual transmission

so here's the rub, the reason I love the Jettas is they have soul - they're just such a hoot to drive. The Cruze feels like a small, rental car (import rental car, but rental car)....

that and.... the cow piss fill spot is under the floor mat in the trunk. As no one ever puts anything in their trunk, I can't imagine the problem with this - but there are some people like Dan Stokes who do carry a lot of junk in their trunk and this could be a problem for a guy such as him.

wb dan! it's been boring here without you

[SpiderGearsMan]

all that hhr stuff comes in the malibu now