2014 chevy cruze turbo diesel

[Beagle]

here's your opportunity to be the first journalist to put Propane or Nitrous on a oil burner Cruz... and the first to return it as a box of cookies.

I'm totally with Dan on this one. Even if this is a proven european engine, I'd wait for the third year.

The diesel Jetta I rode in pulled great, seemed like a kinda stout little turd for 50 mpg. It was the rest of the car (much like a GM) that made me get plastic hives.

[TheSilverBuick]

Because of this thread, I asked GM for a Cruze diesel and they're sending one along in a couple of weeks. I am excited to drive it if nothing else to get some early impressions of one. I have friends with TDI Jettas so I have some idea of how the thing should feel. I'm interested in seeing if I can get 700 miles out of a tank of gas.

Nutting and I came up with a fun idea for a drive to a dinner reservation with our wives....in Virginia.

Nice!

[Barry Donovan]

Jetta is the lowest CSI car out there these days.... customer satisfaction at dumpster level ...doesn't even sell very well

they were bad way back when I drove one..but it was a leap over the rabbit. 1987? jetta. no turbo. The hills reminded me of the older subaru 1781cc..except the old subae had a much larger torque number, and rpms to 9k if you wanted.. I decided I hated inlines of any kind forever.

todays boost is keeping the runts hanging on.
the only interval shorter than a boxer a heterosexual man built is the valve adjusting. (there is no normal boxer by factory), else the 3 main gas boxer walks all over those little diesels in many more ways than I could even list. Could start with winter mornings..

I won't down it with facts, the little car world is a pile of shit..lucky to see a diesel at all.

for 17k, that really does look better and better given the sideways crap the world is.
turbo diesel, modern controls..and the squashy bodies for computing (they have to stay nice to computers, not people..we got lucky I guess, thanks to computers). Must be much better that it was...although some liked the spring board steel with a vibrating diesel in it way back when.

[Brian Lohnes]

The northeast media fleet one came in a couple days ago. They are a hot commodity it seems.

[SpiderGearsMan]

we are Awaiting our first one

[Brian Lohnes]

Because of this thread, I asked GM for a Cruze diesel and they're sending one along in a couple of weeks. I am excited to drive it if nothing else to get some early impressions of one. I have friends with TDI Jettas so I have some idea of how the thing should feel. I'm interested in seeing if I can get 700 miles out of a tank of gas.

Nutting and I came up with a fun idea for a drive to a dinner reservation with our wives....in Virginia.

[SpiderGearsMan]

they drive nice.... but no manual transmission

so here's the rub, the reason I love the Jettas is they have soul - they're just such a hoot to drive. The Cruze feels like a small, rental car (import rental car, but rental car)....

that and.... the cow piss fill spot is under the floor mat in the trunk. As no one ever puts anything in their trunk, I can't imagine the problem with this - but there are some people like Dan Stokes who do carry a lot of junk in their trunk and this could be a problem for a guy such as him.

wb dan! it's been boring here without you

Jetta is the lowest CSI car out there these days.... customer satisfaction at dumpster level ...doesn't even sell very well

[SpiderGearsMan]

all that hhr stuff comes in the malibu now

[SuperBuickGuy]

they drive nice.... but no manual transmission

so here's the rub, the reason I love the Jettas is they have soul - they're just such a hoot to drive. The Cruze feels like a small, rental car (import rental car, but rental car)....

that and.... the cow piss fill spot is under the floor mat in the trunk. As no one ever puts anything in their trunk, I can't imagine the problem with this - but there are some people like Dan Stokes who do carry a lot of junk in their trunk and this could be a problem for a guy such as him.

wb dan! it's been boring here without you

[DanStokes]

I'm not sure if the Cruze driveline is related to the HHR or not but I think it might be. Anyhow, ME's HHR is a little tank and leaks/uses NOTHING. Absolutely dry underneath. We just ran up about 6K miles on it going from coast to coast and back again. Average 28.4 MPG, much at WOT up mountains.

I'm hoping the Cruze (or is it Cruz?) Diesel turns out to be OK as I'd love to have one. I NEVER buy a first-year driveline, even used, as there's likely to be issues to get ironed out. Fingers crossed for GM.

Dan

[SpiderGearsMan]

all that airbag support costs weight

[Beagle]

my f250 7.3 has been pretty good about 20mpg mixed city / hwy recently, which is hugely better than the 15 the F150's 351 gets but with 20 quart oil changes v. 5 quart changes, it starts to become a "what am I doing" thing. I'd rather pull a trailer with the diesel.

46 v. almost everything else's 40 ... but I hear the VW guys claiming 50 all the time. In the flatlands here, I could see it. That is a total fatass of a ride though! I'm still shocked by curb weights on these really safe cars. That thing weighs like a Chevelle Wagon!

[yellomalibu]

A while back, I was looking at mpg cars, and how they are rated... perhaps it was in consumer reports, I don't recall. Anyway, the 5 year cost (including price of the car AND the fuel you'd use) was surprising. The more expensive VW diesel was on the top of the list.

Depending on how much driving you do, and how long you plan on keeping the car, the diesels seem to be the better economic choice.

[Beagle]

no man, say it ain't so... a Chevrolet that leaks oil? NO F*ING WAY!

/ed

So I went and found the Motor Trend review -

CURB WEIGHT 3500 lb (mfr)
ouch.

[dieselgeek]

Mr Notwrench ...we had a recall where WE CUT that section away..since it took a few minutes to zing it ...not really notice it

Interesting, you didn't mention this global recall before? Why is it necessary? because the cars all leak oil and catch on fire. So you cut off the bellypan (plastic, of course) which then kills all the aero and how many MPG? So the leaking oil just drains out from under the car? Ironically, this is the "Cruze ECO" model. Sounds like an awesome design to me.

I rest my case. Keep trying, GM. Perhaps you'll get it one day!