Oil pump R&R 70 Roadrunner 383 w/headers

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  • groucho
    Legendary BangShifter
    • Oct 2008
    • 4841

    #1

    Oil pump R&R 70 Roadrunner 383 w/headers

    Anyone done this and know if I need to raise the motor? How far? Hands on answers preferred (I too own repair manuals). Thank you
    STUGOTS
  • NewEnglandRaceFan
    Banned
    • Jun 2013
    • 2991

    #2
    Originally posted by groucho View Post
    Anyone done this and know if I need to raise the motor? How far? Hands on answers preferred (I too own repair manuals). Thank you
    p.m. chad, I'm sure d/f has done this

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    • BBR
      Chief Do'er
      • Nov 2007
      • 11609

      #3
      BBMopar = External oil pump.
      Last edited by BBR; July 26, 2013, 07:07 AM.
      Life is short. Be a do'er and not a shoulda done'er.
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      • DanStokes
        Ancient LSR Guy
        • Oct 2007
        • 28435

        #4
        Groucho, I have done this but it was so long ago that I can't remember the process. Mine was w/o headers but I think I had to lift the engine. Sorry I'm not more help.

        Dan

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        • BKBridges
          Superhero BangShifter
          • Apr 2011
          • 918

          #5
          Remove the oil filter and then loosen the bolts that hold the pump to the side of the block. You should be able to slide the pump out without raising the motor, but if you cant, youll need to wangle the bolts out first, then remove the cover, then the rest should have enough room to be removed. Not a big failure rate assembly, if the motor is un rebuilt and has no oil pressure it usually stems from nylon "teeth" cogging the oil pickup as the timing gears disintegrate... a real common problem.
          BKB
          www.FBthrottlebodies.com
          Bruce K Bridges

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          • groucho
            Legendary BangShifter
            • Oct 2008
            • 4841

            #6
            Originally posted by BKBridges View Post
            Remove the oil filter and then loosen the bolts that hold the pump to the side of the block. You should be able to slide the pump out without raising the motor, but if you cant, youll need to wangle the bolts out first, then remove the cover, then the rest should have enough room to be removed. Not a big failure rate assembly, if the motor is un rebuilt and has no oil pressure it usually stems from nylon "teeth" cogging the oil pickup as the timing gears disintegrate... a real common problem.
            BKB
            This one's coming out to fix some leaks (OP's fine). Thank you
            STUGOTS

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            • Ron Ward
              Legendary BangShifter
              • Dec 2007
              • 5340

              #7
              Groucho, to save yourself some headaches in the long run, be sure to rotate the engine up to TDC, remove the distributor and the oil pump intermediate shaft. You are going to have to prime the pump after putting it back in, and this will facilitate easier priming with a 1/2" drill and a long piece of 5/16" hex rod. If you don't have a piece of hex rod, PM me your addresss and I will mail you one.

              When you take the oil pump intermediate shaft out, make note of how the distributor drive slot is oriented in relation to the centerline of the camshaft. It is important that when you drop the intermediate shaft back into the engine that the slot is facing the same direction as when you removed it. After that, drop the dizzy back in and set the timing. All done.


              Ron
              It's really no different than trying to glue them back on after she has her way.

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              • oldschoolcamaro
                Hero BangShifter
                • Mar 2011
                • 398

                #8
                i replaced a oil pump on a 440RB in a 77 dodge truck in about a 1/2 hr it was that easy
                "if it's too loud you're too old !!! "sigpic

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                • BKBridges
                  Superhero BangShifter
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 918

                  #9
                  If you pack the pump with light grease or break-in lube before you put it back on the motor you don't need to prime it and additionally you wont need to pull the distributor and drive gear/shaft. Just trying to beat the "book"
                  BKB
                  www.FBthrottlebodies.com
                  Bruce K Bridges

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                  • oldschoolcamaro
                    Hero BangShifter
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 398

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BKBridges View Post
                    If you pack the pump with light grease or break-in lube before you put it back on the motor you don't need to prime it and additionally you wont need to pull the distributor and drive gear/shaft. Just trying to beat the "book"
                    BKB

                    that's exactly what i did to the melling HV pump i installed ,pulled the pump cover off and packed it tight with vaseline and oil press came up very quickly
                    "if it's too loud you're too old !!! "sigpic

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                    • phitter67
                      Hero BangShifter
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 270

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BKBridges View Post
                      If you pack the pump with light grease or break-in lube before you put it back on the motor you don't need to prime it and additionally you wont need to pull the distributor and drive gear/shaft. Just trying to beat the "book"
                      BKB
                      That's how I used io do Buicks also. Did alot of them in the '80s.

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