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jeez good thing my 97 grand prix never got a vin check they would of found at least 6 different vins from the body panels LOL
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The guys down here building Eleanor replicas, wait, taking money for them, got busted VIN washing. Texas takes a dim view on that. The last I checked a lot of folks got burned on their deposit. I've seen cops compare body part VINs on late models to the VIN on the dashboard. With computers the way they are now, they can find out if the panels are stolen, the car, dang near anything. They'll take the whole car.
The VIN and title dictate to me what the car is. If you rebody a Camaro, it's still a Camaro. I wonder what Chad's wagon is registered as though.
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Originally posted by NewEnglandRaceFan View PostThe shape,
cheezzoom was still thought of as a 57 chevy
cadzilla was still thought of as a 40's caddy
a dynacore 69 Camaro body is still a 69 Camaro
same with the mustang, the chevelle , a Brookfield 32 ford roadster
and the list goes on.
The only reason most try to use at least "Part" of an original cars vin's "placement" sheetmetal is because There isn't a standardized law/rule on kit/recreation vehicles for all 50 states, And those that might have laws allowing a recreation to be vin'd, and titled as a model year it "looks" like. STATES have a bad habbit if changing the rules after the fact. and if you're in the middle of a build when they change the "rules" it can kill the project.
Take here,my state, a FFR Daytona coupe, it gets titled as a recreation/kit car, and the year depends on the engine blocks date code. have a 1970 block, no emissions. drop a mod motor in it ,say from 2012 and it has to pass emissions for a 2012 vehicle. All this seems mighty crazy for the amount of miles "fun" car/trucks log per year.. very few are used daily..
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Originally posted by groucho View PostTo me, if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. If it's a repop 69 Camaro or 57 Chev, and the details are true, it's all the same to me. Whether Chevy or Year One made it, it's still a Camaro or 57 Chev. IMO
Any loopholes at all, have at them.
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To me, if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. If it's a repop 69 Camaro or 57 Chev, and the details are true, it's all the same to me. Whether Chevy or Year One made it, it's still a Camaro or 57 Chev. IMOOriginally posted by Russell View PostNow that you can buy new nearly ever part to build a '69 camaro from scratch. There are "restos" that look like they replace 85+% of the sheet metal. Is it really an XYZ car or is it a Year One? What part makes a car a car, the Frame? unibody? firewall? roof? or is the VIN number all that counts? What part or how much of the orignal car is needed to still say its it that car?Last edited by groucho; September 10, 2013, 02:40 PM.
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Originally posted by Russell View PostIf you do that in NC I am pretty sure you have to meet 2013 epa standard, and have to past the yearly OBD2 inspection. Its been awhile, NC did have some stuff on Kit Cars can not remember what the rules where.
not really but it's really easy to get a kit car registered just need all the emission equipment form the doner engine last i looked and needs fully functioning lights and seat belts air bags are optionalLast edited by Mater; September 10, 2013, 01:33 PM.
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My 78 Trans Am was bought from a wrecking yard in the 90's it has a salvage/rebuilder title and the year reflects that..
Nothing was removed or changed..
Luckily I do not have to smog my cars/trucks!
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The shape,
cheezzoom was still thought of as a 57 chevy
cadzilla was still thought of as a 40's caddy
a dynacore 69 Camaro body is still a 69 Camaro
same with the mustang, the chevelle , a Brookfield 32 ford roadster
and the list goes on.
The only reason most try to use at least "Part" of an original cars vin's "placement" sheetmetal is because There isn't a standardized law/rule on kit/recreation vehicles for all 50 states, And those that might have laws allowing a recreation to be vin'd, and titled as a model year it "looks" like. STATES have a bad habbit if changing the rules after the fact. and if you're in the middle of a build when they change the "rules" it can kill the project.
Take here,my state, a FFR Daytona coupe, it gets titled as a recreation/kit car, and the year depends on the engine blocks date code. have a 1970 block, no emissions. drop a mod motor in it ,say from 2012 and it has to pass emissions for a 2012 vehicle. All this seems mighty crazy for the amount of miles "fun" car/trucks log per year.. very few are used daily..
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Originally posted by 68scott385 View PostDidn't this topic bite Boyd Coddington in the buttocks when he tried to register some of his highly modified creations as older cars.
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Originally posted by STINEY View PostNeat car....where can I find more build details on it?
They ran it a the Maxton Mile and got ink in HOTROD
Andrew Nelson and family built this VW-based whatchamacallit for dirt cheap to race in the Grassroots Motorsports magazine $2009 and $2010 Challenges, and with a 400-based engine it ran 10.82 at 123 in the quarter. At Maxton, with a destroked 265 small-block, it made it half a mile before the Powerglide scattered into a hundred itty-bitty, oily pieces.
Read more: http://www.hotrod.com/top_speed_chal...#ixzz2eVyRlsqH
I talked to them at Maxton they have a very cool build Book but I dont know about online.Last edited by Russell; September 10, 2013, 11:22 AM.
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Didn't this topic bite Boyd Coddington in the buttocks when he tried to register some of his highly modified creations as older cars.
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Originally posted by Mater View Postif the vin is original then it is a 69 if it does not have a 69 vin but a state issued or what ever then it is a (insert year the state vin says) 69 camaro
so if you where to register it today it would be a 2013 1969 camaro. me and my uncle have actually thought of doing this build a brand new 69 camaro as there is enough parts to do so just some small trim and badges and interior parts are not being repopped
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if the vin is original then it is a 69 if it does not have a 69 vin but a state issued or what ever then it is a (insert year the state vin says) 69 camaro
so if you where to register it today it would be a 2013 1969 camaro. me and my uncle have actually thought of doing this build a brand new 69 camaro as there is enough parts to do so just some small trim and badges and interior parts are not being repopped
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