Rock & Roll Engineering / Ponitacpower.com

[rmajchro]

Hi all,

So I have read about Rock & Roll Engineering & Bruce Fulper in all the magazines for the last 15 yrs or so. After several emails and phone discussions, I sent my pontiac motor out to him in Southern California along with a significant payment. Its been about 4 months, I was quoted 3, and I get very little specific info back from him. The engine is not done, and quite honestly I have very little idea as to what is going on with it. Can anyone comment? Has anyone else had there motor done there? Is this the typical situation? I know alot of the magazine guys must of had interactions with him over the years, he is in a lot of mags. I am starting to feel as if I may have lost my motor and my money. Any suggestions? Thanks.

[Brian Lohnes]

Re: Rock & Roll Engineering / Ponitacpower.com

Ruh-ro.

Read a similar story on the web a while back.

Brian

[rmajchro]

Re: Rock & Roll Engineering / Ponitacpower.com

Hi Brian,

Do you have any more info on the articel you saw on the web? Thanks!

[stage1scott]

Re: Rock & Roll Engineering / Ponitacpower.com

start reading this thread at post number 16

http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=6099&highlight=bruce+fulper&page=2

[SpiderGearsMan]

Re: Rock & Roll Engineering / Ponitacpower.com

next time -nunzi's in brooklyn

[Monk]

Re: Rock & Roll Engineering / Ponitacpower.com

Wow

Have you tried contacting them?

Have anybody you know in the area that can
go stick their head in the door to see what's happenin?

The link Scott posted is some pretty interesting reading

[bearphoto]

Re: Rock & Roll Engineering / Ponitacpower.com

I have been to Bruce Fulper's shop. Its pretty crazy there. I have met him several times at some of the pontiac shows. I will tell you this. The guy is not exactly uh, how shall I say this. Basically he has no personality and thinks his s__t dont stink. However he does an awesome engine build. His shop is about 60 miles from me.

Keep me posted and if necessary I can go by the shop for you

Doug

[groucho]

Re: Rock & Roll Engineering / Ponitacpower.com

next time -nunzi's in brooklyn

Or Groucho's Performance-SoCal

[jcharliem]

Re: Rock & Roll Engineering / Ponitacpower.com

This info is a bit dated... like 7 years...

Back when Pomona hosted the "Street Legal Drags," Bruce was there quite often representing Rock & Roll Engineering. A buddy of mine had some engine work done on his '68 Firebird. If I recall, it took about a month - and he called several times for an update. At the time, he seemed like a reputable guy.

Good luck.

[rmajchro]

Re: Rock & Roll Engineering / Ponitacpower.com

Doug,

Do you have a contact number? I might just take you up ob your offer to drop in there. I am hoping to get out there in Jan, but if it doesn't happen, I would really appreciate having someone check in on it for me.

[SpiderGearsMan]

Re: Rock & Roll Engineering / Ponitacpower.com

nunzi is the original pontiac shop in ny

[bearphoto]

Re: Rock & Roll Engineering / Ponitacpower.com

I think Fulper is a reputable guy, he is just a legend in his own mind. He is good and he knows he is good and he's not afraid to say it. That being said, give me a call at 909-855-1308
Doug

[sicorp]

I dealt with Bruce about 7 yrs ago. I went to him to build a 600HP stroked 455 tri power. for my GTO,

Had the engine in my car for about 18 months. It was broke in correctly and driven aout 2500 miles> At that time I felt it was broke in correctly and started driving a little harder.

I brought the motor to 4500 rpm twice before it blew, Oil pressure went to zero. I had a very reputable engine shop take it out to find the cause, what they found was astonishing.

The cause for loss in pressure was that he did not reinforce the oil pump shaft, allowing it to come loose and wreak havock in the engine block. After taking to the the shop in charge of correcting the problem, they said it is a standard on Pontiac engines, set up for race or high output street to do this.

Here is a list of what Rock n Roll/Bruce Fulper cheated me out of:

Block was not decked
Stock rods
Stock pistons
Stock rings
Head gaskets were not sized to balance engine
No balancing was done on any components
The engine was not stroked
Not stroked crank
Not stroked rods
Stock head bolts
Engine was not balanced
Checks were done on all bearing clearances and did not meet crate engine levels

As a final analogy i paid 12,800.000 dollars for a 4,500.00 crate engine. In his defense he did supply requested Kaufman heads that he did port.

Anything else that was hidden he cheated on. Bruce does no his stuff in the Pontiac world, but would highly recommend, if he does any work for you. That you live at his shop to make sure you are not getting the same and truly are getting what you paid for.

After my engine was rebuilt, by a company that actually did the work that was promised, I finally have the GTO I dreamed of. The engine did a rear wheel dyne at 550hp and I'm thrilled.

[sicorp]

I dealt with Bruce about 7 yrs ago. I went to him to build a 600HP stroked 455 tri power. for my GTO,

Had the engine in my car for about 18 months. It was broke in correctly and driven aout 2500 miles> At that time I felt it was broke in correctly and started driving a little harder.

I brought the motor to 4500 rpm twice before it blew, Oil pressure went to zero. I had a very reputable engine shop take it out to find the cause, what they found was astonishing.

The cause for loss in pressure was that he did not reinforce the oil pump shaft, allowing it to come loose and wreak havock in the engine block. After taking to the the shop in charge of correcting the problem, they said it is a standard on Pontiac engines, set up for race or high output street to do this.

Here is a list of what Rock n Roll/Bruce Fulper cheated me out of:

Block was not decked
Stock rods
Stock pistons
Stock rings
Head gaskets were not sized to balance engine
No balancing was done on any components
The engine was not stroked
Not stroked crank
Not stroked rods
Stock head bolts
Engine was not balanced
Checks were done on all bearing clearances and did not meet crate engine levels

As a final analogy i paid 12,800.000 dollars for a 4,500.00 crate engine. In his defense he did supply requested Kaufman heads that he did port.

Anything else that was hidden he cheated on. Bruce does no his stuff in the Pontiac world, but would highly recommend, if he does any work for you. That you live at his shop to make sure you are not getting the same and truly are getting what you paid for.

After my engine was rebuilt, by a company that actually did the work that was promised, I finally have the GTO I dreamed of. The engine did a rear wheel dyne at 550hp and I'm thrilled.

[Casper]

I might be in the market for a cheap set of aluminum pontiac heads if by chance someone has a set laying around.