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    From another list I am on........

    Fran Preve lived in the Niagra Falls area of
    New York. He worked most of his life in the Tonawanda Chevy engine
    plant, and was the most knowledgeable person in the world on the Chevy
    348/409 engines and variants. Cancer took him in his sleep.


    His mission in life was partly to let people know that the 348/409
    wasn't a "truck" engine. He had been asking at the plant about the
    rooms full of documentation from the 50's and 60's that seemed to be
    forgotten, and was told it would be there forever. then one day he saw
    a mound of paper overflowing several dumpsters behind the plant and
    there was all that paper from that period. He went home, got his pickup
    and carted it all to his house.

    In going through the documents, he found the first piece of paper, dated
    about 1954, referring to a "big block" engine to supplement the 265/283
    that was already in the works for 1955. This very first not pegged the
    big engine at something over 300 cubes (348 was not decided till
    sometime later) and production at about 70/30 car engines to truck
    engines. (almost all engines do double duty, or did in those days). So
    right there was proof that the engine was a car engine that did truck
    duty. The numbers never varied much from that original note.
    That engine became the 348 that was introduced in 1958.

    Fran probably won't get a write up in the big magazines, he wasn't rich,
    he didn't run in influential circles. He was just a husband, father,
    and a car guy with Chevy and oil in his veins that wanted the world to
    know more about that short term engine that did so much for hot rodders
    and racers, the "W" head, big block 348/409/427.


  • #2
    Re: The car universe is a little emptier today.

    What a great epitaph
    Thanks for sharing

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    • #3
      Re: The car universe is a little emptier today.

      Thank you for the info, with there being a couple of aluminum, and one new cast iron w motor blocks headed for market, along with several companies making new aluminum heads, it appears the 409 will be introduced to younger folks, and be around a bit longer.

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      • #4
        Re: The car universe is a little emptier today.

        Building a 348 caused me a lot of grumbling, but I have to say...the minute it fired up it ran like a Lexus. Whatever you might say about one they are significant part of Detroit and industrial history. Wish he'd written a book...
        ...

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        • #5
          Re: The car universe is a little emptier today.

          I learned to know Fran at a NCOA chevelle convention that was
          held in Camp Hill Pa. He was an interesting and likeable man that
          was knowledgeable and one of those that you find yourself having to
          pry yourself away from in order to keep it from being hours of conversation.
          I helped him and Mark Meekins transfer an actual 427 mystery motor from a
          Penske rental truck to a pickup -all disassembled -and it was whisked away out
          of sight just like that . That thing had some unusual things about it .
          The crank snout where the balancer presses on was the size like a small block
          but it had the counterweights of a big block . It also had these big long cast
          iron bolt together header length and shaped manifolds in two big sections .
          The heads looked like big block chevy but they had different looking exhaust
          ports than what I was used to seeing. It was the real deal and when I nosily
          asked how much was being paid for it they just laughed and said "it's way too much!"

          Several years later the National Chevelle Owners Association also hosted
          Smokey Yunick at a convention down in Nashville where I was able to
          make his acquaintance, also a very interesting person .

          Are there any other former ncoa members on this site ?

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          • #6
            Re: The car universe is a little emptier today.

            Originally posted by 65 L79
            I learned to know Fran at a NCOA chevelle convention that was
            held in Camp Hill Pa. He was an interesting and likeable man that
            was knowledgeable and one of those that you find yourself having to
            pry yourself away from in order to keep it from being hours of conversation.
            I helped him and Mark Meekins transfer an actual 427 mystery motor from a
            Penske rental truck to a pickup -all disassembled -and it was whisked away out
            of sight just like that . That thing had some unusual things about it .
            The crank snout where the balancer presses on was the size like a small block
            but it had the counterweights of a big block . It also had these big long cast
            iron bolt together header length and shaped manifolds in two big sections .
            The heads looked like big block chevy but they had different looking exhaust
            ports than what I was used to seeing. It was the real deal and when I nosily
            asked how much was being paid for it they just laughed and said "it's way too much!"

            Several years later the National Chevelle Owners Association also hosted
            Smokey Yunick at a convention down in Nashville where I was able to
            make his acquaintance, also a very interesting person .

            Are there any other former ncoa members on this site ?
            Wow....

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            • #7
              Re: The car universe is a little emptier today.

              I liked his articles on big blocks , an insider for sure
              rest in peace

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              • #8
                Re: The car universe is a little emptier today.

                Sorry to hear this. There are so many like him, somewhat anonymous guys that fill the people they meet with knowledge to pass along.

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                • #9
                  Re: The car universe is a little emptier today.

                  I ran two 348 mills in the 60's.
                  The '55 in my avatar was a 348 w/ 3 deuce set up.
                  Just picked up a 409 this past summer.....for a build up sometime in the future.

                  The 348/409 has a following of its own.

                  You guys that got to know Fran are the lucky ones.

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                  • #10
                    Re: The car universe is a little emptier today.

                    living in buffalo was lucky enough to know him just a nice guy
                    one of his good friends was also one of mine so it just happened
                    him and his wife both great people and good racers and he was a wealth of knowledge
                    god speed

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                    • #11
                      Re: The car universe is a little emptier today.

                      the w motors were a little weak in the con rod department

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                      • #12
                        Re: The car universe is a little emptier today.

                        Originally posted by SpiderGearsMan
                        the w motors were a little weak in the con rod department
                        ya but they are KOOL
                        and that sound nothing like it
                        i put a 409 in my 71 chevy truck what a monster TQ wise {not like a newer big block but wow}

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                        • #13
                          Re: The car universe is a little emptier today.

                          I also was at camphill when that 427 eng was transfered also one thing comes to mind that we had the very chance to talk with fran from the time that his talk was over till like 4 am boy was that fun and Smokey was great me and Dale did many things together we handled lots of chevy parts when I was going strong we had 150 small blocks and 50 big blocks

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