Project Mustang Consolidation

[Beagle]

What hot side are you gonna get? I see .96 and 1.05 AR but not sure how much difference that means... do they have a compressor map for it anywhere? I'm not sure I'd expect to find one at that price, but curious about it anyway.

VS racing is about 10 miles from my house in Lewisville, about 40 from where I'm at now. Lemme know if you need a "hands on" for anything?

[Beagle]

valve springs

[Russell]

valve springs

Stock cam! I have the gt40p heads on the old motor it has upgraded valve spring, but I have been told they have thin decks so they don't hold head gaskets well.

[Beagle]

valve springs

[Russell]

For low boost ring gap should be fine. I am alittle worried about letting the magic out. When it needs head gaskets I might look at the ring gap.

I am going to try to get it painted before I start on the turbo install. Hopefully that will get me back on track with paint. Need to finish the air compressor shead, and buy the big boy compressor.

[Beagle]

501 at the tire is where "them" tells me the bad smoke fire and metallic part spewing genie lives, but that really is a ways off. Stock heads are going to be a pretty big road block.

Ring gap?

[Russell]

Dan for a while some said the block crack at 501? Beagle I agree plan is to start with the smallest spring in the waste gate. Hopefully 4-7. Turn it up slowly, have a reality check around 15 before going any higher.

Have you seen on Facebook? It gives me unrealistic hope.

https://m.facebook.com/immortal8.2deck/?refid=0

Project stock bottom end
Build thread for our 91 stickshift sbe 8.2 deck fox coupe.

[Beagle]

25 psi?!!

"Project Let's Drive Over the Crank"

I think it was Hellion's turbo testing that split the first one I saw trying to go 10's with stock everything many moons ago. I'd start with that 7 pound spring... lol.

[DanStokes]

Right now it worse it's on drag radials! I figured it would take 25 lbs of boost to make 600HP. How much the long block will handle, well I don't know. Hopefully I will know when it maxed out before it gives up. I can see an engine swap in my future more than likely a 5.8 maybe an LS.

My 5.8 fits fine but I used the FMPP swap parts - seems like the way to go. Mine is a '96 truck short block and so has the roller cam arrangements which I think is worthwhile. For the 5.0, the usual number I've heard is that 600 HP is OK, 601 and the block will split thru the lifter bores. I have not personally tested that theory.

Dan

[Russell]

might Diaper it if you're on slicks. 600 hp on a stock long block wouldn't be that easy without quite a bit of boost, the heads just won't support it easily. I think, however, it would not be that hard to get 600 foot pounds without taxing a GT45 real hard, and that's what I'd want to avoid.

Right now it worse it's on drag radials! I figured it would take 25 lbs of boost to make 600HP. How much the long block will handle, well I don't know. Hopefully I will know when it maxed out before it gives up. I can see an engine swap in my future more than likely a 5.8 maybe an LS.

[Beagle]

might Diaper it if you're on slicks. 600 hp on a stock long block wouldn't be that easy without quite a bit of boost, the heads just won't support it easily. I think, however, it would not be that hard to get 600 foot pounds without taxing a GT45 real hard, and that's what I'd want to avoid.

[Russell]

I am hoping to be able to figure out where I want it then build a bracket to connect the turbo flange to the head so it is floating. The connect the headers to the flange with pipe.

I have high hopes for the block but I have heard their history. Sounds like low speed torque, over revving, to much timing, or bad fuel will let the oil come out where it shouldn't.

I hope to run a reasonable tune. Some say E85 is good for turbo cars. It's pretty easy to get here. Some say a good balancer is a good upgrade should add that to the list. There are few people on Facebook that claim crazy power (800-900+) out of the stock block. I assume they are the exception not the rule. Might should build a belly pan for it.

[DanStokes]

While there isn't much $$ involved, be sure to support that turbo! Especially when using headers that are not designed for turbo use they will want to crack and will do so quickly if they're supporting the weight of the turbo. I'm sticking with the factory exhaust manifold on Mutt's turbo in part because it's designed to hold the weight and live with the (considerable) heating and cooling and the expansion that goes with it. I have a friend in the Detroit area who makes turbo manifolds and other bits for (among others) auto makers and he says that turbo support is the most commonly overlooked area of a turbo system.

Dan

[Beagle]

leave some extra money for a super-duper brand name wastegate? I'll reserve judgement but boost control on that particular block is pretty critical.

[Russell]

Dragweek 2020 is canceled. I was really looking forward to it. I am trying to make lemonade, I now have a little more “car money” to go ahead and turbo the mustang What I have now is 100% stock HO, T5, 4.10 spool. The car has an SFI flywheel and bell housing, lift arm lowers and solid uppers, torque box kit, subframes, 6-point bar, tube k-member. Electric fan, aluminum radiator, 3G alt, A/C, manual rack, shorty headers 2.5 H-Pipe, Flow masters (will be going away) Holley EFI Terminator X. It's safe to assume everything else stock.



The plan is to make my own hot side starting with shorty headers flipped left to right. Am I missing anything, or would you suggest alternatives or additions? No part is too small to mention. I don’t expect this combination to be enough I figure I am mostly getting my feet wet, but the ultimate goal is to run 10.0x



Turbo Kit Estimate

Hot Side

GT45 Turbo $160

44mm WG $100

Oil Feed / Return $50

Exhaust Pipe $100

DP Clamp $35

flange $20

Cold Side

Intercooler $100

Piping kit $100

50 mm BOV $65

3 Bar Map $50

Fuel System

340 lph pump $110

SEP 850cc injectors or VSR Deka 80lb $335

Flex fuel Sensor $55

Other

Fuel & Oil pressure sensors $75

red RTV $5

Ring and Pinion $100

65mm TB $on hand

Caster Camber Coilovers $ on hand

total $1,460