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    Apparently so. I have zero plans to push mine that far
    You set close tolerances, I set loose tolerances.. Wide valve seats..
    Use the best oil we can with zinc..
    I once used 100% Power Punch in the motor, at the end of qualifying it was dripping like water... I was told it rattled until it warmed up..
    Block and heads were smoothed to aid drain back.

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      You set close tolerances, I set loose tolerances.. Wide valve seats..
      Use the best oil we can with zinc..
      I once used 100% Power Punch in the motor, at the end of qualifying it was dripping like water... I was told it rattled until it warmed up..
      Block and heads were smoothed to aid drain back.


      Interesting. I guess that all makes sense

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      • Re: Ruth’s “Daily Driver” BB El Camino

        So I ordered this Magnaflow stainless 3" exhaust kit for the El Camino. Its designed to fit the el camino and uses slip fit joints with clamps to connect it all together which ended up working out really well. I tried going to a local muffler shop but boy that was expensive.
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        I had to clearance the crossmember to make room for one side of the exhaust. Once I clearanced the crossmember the pipes lined up really well with the Hedman hedders.
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        All the frame mounts and bushings came with the kit and they were designed to go into factory holes on the frame so those bolted up fairly easy. I used a pair of claw grip pliers to guide the bolt into the frame back by the gas tank. Im not sure how I would have gotten that one in without those pliers
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        Getting the mufflers to sit the same from side to side was a little challenging. Especially once I started to try and get the pipes over the hump worked out
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        Last edited by BBLemond; August 9th, 2017, 11:54 AM.
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          I needed to hold the pipes in place while I fiddled around with getting them lined up correctly. I used a spacer between the quarter panel and the tail pipe and gently clamped them in place.
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          As you can see the pipes that go over the hump are slightly different from side to side. Once they were up there it was easy to figure out which side went where
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          I've had this tool for quite a while and haven't had many opportunities to use it. It leaves a decent edge and no mess like my cut off wheel. I only needed to trim a few pieces to get the fit I liked
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          Each piece effects the others throughout the length of the El Camino. So after I tightened the fronts up I had to go back and loosen them to get it all worked out. it wasn't really that tough to get it all fitted nice once I figured out what I needed to do
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          The magnaflow x-pipe is connected to the long tubes that run under seats towards the mufflers. I thought this helped keep the mufflers somewhat centered side to side especially since all the connections are slip fit it was nice to have some rigidity


          My tig welds aren't too bad for an old guy that cant see
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          Last edited by BBLemond; August 9th, 2017, 11:56 AM.

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          • Re: Ruth’s “Daily Driver” BB El Camino

            One thing I like is how the clamps are slim and tight to the pipes so there's no flanges hanging down to catch things. I think it makes this bolt in kit a little nicer and more comparable to a muffler shop that welds it all in. I also like how there's no gaskets that can blow out over time.
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            Im not sure if this grade of stainless will polish up but I do think I want to have polished tips sticking out. May need to just buy some that go over the pipe slightly. Suppose I can cut the pipes back a bit if do get new tips
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            Last edited by BBLemond; August 9th, 2017, 11:57 AM.

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            • Re: Ruth’s “Daily Driver” BB El Camino

              You could take one of your cut off pieces and see how they polish up. I use a "green wheel" (deburring wheel in the catalogues) on the bench grinder and it does 90% of it. If you want full shiny you can use compound and a soft wheel to finish. Anyhow, if your cut-off piece polishes up you could just do the tailpipes.

              I've polished both 304 and 316 successfully but I know there are some other grades used in exhaust (like Fox Mustang factory headers) that don't polish up well.

              And your TIG welds by a blind guy look better than my MIG welds by a blind guy.

              Dan
              Last edited by DanStokes; June 21st, 2017, 02:34 PM.

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              • Re: Ruth’s “Daily Driver” BB El Camino

                You could take one of your cut off pieces and see how they polish up. I use a "green wheel" (deburring wheel in the catalogues) on the bench grinder and it does 90% of it. If you want full shiny you can use compound and a soft wheel to finish. Anyhow, if your cut-off piece polishes up you could just do the tailpipes.

                I've polished both 304 and 316 successfully but I know there are some other grades used in exhaust (like Fox Mustang factory headers) that don't polish up well.

                And your TIG welds by a blind guy look better than my MIG welds by a blind guy.

                Dan

                Thats a great idea!

                Yah it sucks getting old

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                • Re: Ruth’s “Daily Driver” BB El Camino

                  flap wheel, then bertex wheel (think of it like scotch brite in circular form), then a cotton polish wheel to get it smooth and shiney. Use green rouge on the cotton wheel. You can save yourself lots of time if you hit the weld with a stainless or brass brush when it's still warm.
                  Last edited by SuperBuickGuy; June 23rd, 2017, 10:39 PM.
                  Doing it all wrong since 1966

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                  • Re: Ruth’s “Daily Driver” BB El Camino

                    flap wheel, then bertex wheel (think of it like scotch brite in circular form), then a cotton polish wheel to get it smooth and shiney. Use green rouge on the cotton wheel. You can save yourself lots of time if you hit the weld with a stainless or brass brush when it's still warm.

                    Fortunately I only need to work on the tips. Dont really care about the rest. I will look into the flap wheels thanks!

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