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    cam bearings in




    rear plug in place

    my clever way of figuring out which bolts hold the windage tray

    studly

    .042 above the deck


    I figured when it took .040 to get the deck right that I'd be using spacer gaskets... 080 to the rescue

    and while I'm at it, mark the balancer



    in other news, this idea needs some work... I'm not a fan of using the aluminum steering shaft, but welding aluminum to steel is beyond my abilities

    so that's a Camaro one.... problem is it's splined rather than flatted.... I may fix that... but we'll see
    Doing it all wrong since 1966

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    • onward with the motor.
      $15.00 engine bags? uh no, how about 10 for $35.00 100 gallon trash tote liners?

      measure the end play

      to spec
      eyeball the scraper

      seems fine

      hmm... problem

      clean and reassemble the oil pump (with new pickup)


      time to assemble pistons (can't do the scraper without the pistons in)

      and yet.... it's now a 4 cylinder



      Doing it all wrong since 1966

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      • Curious how the pan seals on the scraper side? Do you use gasket maker below the scraper, and then just a normal pan gasket over it? Or how does it seal on that scraper?

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        • Originally posted by 1946Austin View Post
          Curious how the pan seals on the scraper side? Do you use gasket maker below the scraper, and then just a normal pan gasket over it? Or how does it seal on that scraper?
          I haven't googled that far so I don't know....
          Doing it all wrong since 1966

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          • Originally posted by SuperBuickGuy View Post

            I haven't googled that far so I don't know....
            In only an attempt to share my experience, here is what I did
            First, being a ford guy - I had to make my scrapper from scratch so I made a full length one. It looked like in the picture that the one you have doesn't go from main cap to main cap.
            Anyway, I silicone sealed it to the block and pan then used the other side of the pan gasket with the factory rubber seals over the main caps. It was fun getting the pan off but it sealed well. One of my drag race buddies said he used silicone everywhere - over the main caps and on both pan rails. Not sure how far off the bottom your pickup is but of course that could be effected by your approach to sealing it up.

            I am sure the internet has a better solution.

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            • When I built a 327 for a my boat I was told and I used contact adhesive but I can't remember where I got that info from!
              Made sure there was a good film on both and set it in position and clamped it down with a piece of angle drilled for the sump bolts, let it set up before installing the sump. Used a paper clip for as a minimum to set the clearance.

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              Boat motor has a dog clutch driving off the snout.

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              Tim
              Melbourne Australia

              65 Hardtop Impala, 70 GTS Monaro, 93 "80" Landcruiser

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              • Storytime... doesn't include scraper... well, it doesn't end in a scraper
                but first things first, I owe the motor 4 more pistons
                number 8.... and yes, I bought a one-size piston ring compressor.... break one ring, once, and you'll (like me) think this is cheap insurance


                started marking it out

                realized that I'd take most of it off... for very little (if any) benefit

                because there is also a windage tray

                however, as I pointed out before - it hits the pan


                next up, remove the stud, cut 3/8" off, reinstall...
                Doing it all wrong since 1966

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                • I used a cutting disk on my 4" to shape the scraper, found I could creep up to the clearance I wanted.
                  Tim
                  Melbourne Australia

                  65 Hardtop Impala, 70 GTS Monaro, 93 "80" Landcruiser

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                  • Originally posted by SuperBuickGuy View Post
                    Storytime...
                    I realized my explanation last night wasn't clear/accurate so I dug out an old picture.

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                    This was the first iteration at oil control.
                    The second iteration moved the scraper from the pan rail to the pan. Basically bent it 90* and bolted it to the pan. This provided a couple of advantages. The first one was I could use the later 1 piece oil pan gasket and two by bolting it to the pan instead of welding it, I could adjust the clearance with thin washers.

                    The third iteration was to throw it in the trash as the benefit on a street car didn't seem to be significant.



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                    • Originally posted by cstmwgn View Post


                      The third iteration was to throw it in the trash as the benefit on a street car didn't seem to be significant.


                      I went straight to this one when I realized how little it would help....
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                      • To be clear about something. I measured the main caps with the original bolts and with the studs torqued to spec, there was no difference in diameter IN CAPITAL LETTERS, YOU MUST CHECK THIS but in this case, there was no need to hone.
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                        • trimmed

                          wooohooo?

                          ah no
                          look close, the back is too high


                          I suspect it's hitting the rear stands... but tomorrow I'm getting a replacement endoscope and can check easily enough.... still hope to have it in the car this weekend.
                          though, before I noticed the pan was too far back - I measured the clearance.... 1/2" is enough



                          time to find all the pieces to degree the cam

                          it's been long enough that I forgot the degree wheel attaches to the crank spinner

                          Doing it all wrong since 1966

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                          • Years ago I attempted to install a crank scrapper on a small block I was building . I totally lost my patience trying to and threw it in the garbage . Not worth the hassle to me .

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                            • onward
                              as much as I hated the thought, these were hitting too


                              I may not have charitable thoughts towards Moroso.... but then again, GM really didn't move those around at all

                              just a bit of grinding and cutting and it fits fine


                              have to set the cam button, but need the gasket in place


                              and check clearance... it 'should' be fine, now I know it will be fine



                              I love a well-studded head

                              starting to look like a motor again

                              Doing it all wrong since 1966

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                              • I love studded motors too! Just a much better system in my opinion.
                                I usually set my cam button to touch the cover without a gasket, and then the gasket installed gives me the clearance I want.

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