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[Loren]

Away way back in time when I had my flared-out Vega, w/ 245- and 265-50s which are big for a Vega, I believe I worked the fenders over two times. Yep, what's great about black...get out the grinder and do whatcha gotta do, re-finish and re-shoot and it'll look fine, and work better 'cause you fixed it.

[SuperBuickGuy]

potato camera for the blur again
stock clearance

new wheel clearance

rear stock

rear new


I know this sounds really dumb but I'm going to cut the front fenders to put larger tires on it. right now, it's about 1/2" outside the fender on the stock side and 1" on the new side. With the changes I'm going to make the control arms, I'll have about 1/2 of that solved but I want 315 front tires, not 275. Bright side is I'll 'fix' the paint flaws the painter did when I do this and resolve a couple other paint issues... thankfully it's black and really easy to match

[SuperBuickGuy]

Brown Santa arrived today

18x10, 18x12.5

poor fgz, they're still too big for him.
forged, light weight

Apex gave me a deal on them, basically I paid the cast price for these (actually, a little less)... thanks Apex

[SuperBuickGuy]

hotchkis 1 3/16 front, UMI 1 1/4 rear




Talked to someone at a company other then hotchkis, who used to work for hotchkis - and we hashed out a solution. I love that he recommended his old employer but as he pointed out, they didn't have a solution.




Also, he suggested a smaller, rear tire... sacrilege, I know, but I think he's right... I'd order the new tires but I need to get the front dialed in (with the new bushings and locks) because I *might* be able to run a 295 front tire. Not a 315 like everyone else, but a lot closer then the 275 I have now




In other new, I'm regearing my other rear differential to 3.73 in hopes that it will keep my clutch alive (also a better limited slip)

[SuperBuickGuy]

Call me out if I am off(which I usually am) but, I would think the the camaro is factory tuned for understeer, and by having closer to 50/50 on your PF2 would tend to make it more neutral steering which would negate the added expense of buying new anti-roll bars....but, it's your car/money, so, it's your call...

the light you see under the right rear wheel would beg to differ

[Russell]

For my entertainment I would like to see you get a used torsion bar out of the JY cut splines in it and weld extensions to spider gears for adjustability.

In high school my first car 85 V6 T-Bird didn't come with a rear sway bar. I added one off a 84 V8 car. It seemed to handle curves better. I don't remember if that was before or after the rear end came around on a wet road one night. I blamed it on the Eagle STs with little tread and going to fast on wet roads.

[silver_bullet]

Call me out if I am off(which I usually am) but, I would think the the camaro is factory tuned for understeer, and by having closer to 50/50 on your PF2 would tend to make it more neutral steering which would negate the added expense of buying new anti-roll bars....but, it's your car/money, so, it's your call...

[SuperBuickGuy]

Front is 1.06 inches (26 mm), rear .961 (24 mm)




For the front I have from 1 1/4, 1 3/8, 1 1/2 (very expensive, very cool), for the rear, 38 mm but 3 adjustment points (38mm is within .05 inches of 1 1/2 inches)


The problem, as I see it, is that my car is substantially lighter then a Camaro....

here are the corner weights for the Camaro






digging up my scaling






so the million dollar question, (okay up to $2,000 question)... do I match front/rear sway bars? those front bars are all hollow....

[SuperBuickGuy]

coming soon to a Corvette near me

[SuperBuickGuy]

adjust valves.... I figured I wouldn't have to warm up the motor since it was 100 degrees out....
got motor hot, everything was too tight. Not by a lot, but the exhaust especially were 1/8-1/4 turn too tight

[ejs262]

so, to make it clear, Function>form, ALWAYS. I just think the short wing fits the car way better IMO.

There's a guy in the Fiero community who is running a NASCAR COT wing on his, he has a ton of track time in the car to tune it, and other aero mods that he has performed, because it has purpose, I think it's awesome, so likewise, if you continue tuning it to make the most of it, hell yeah!

[Dan Barlow]

[SuperBuickGuy]

tall wing is back on.... short wing was, mostly, to get full points in the Design and Engineering. With that said, the wing didn't hurt performance and may have helped a bit... I'll say this again, I like it without the wing but I don't like the though of losing or running into a wall - so it stays.

it's waiting for spark plugs

[ejs262]

going through build threads trying to catch up, I saw the tall wing and was like ...

then I saw the short wing and was way happier! car looks good, the HRM shots are winners too! congrats!

[SuperBuickGuy]

a little rich and the plugs are too hot


also working on the alignment - the C5/C6 front suspension uses the typical GM cam bolts... and they can move... need to find a solution to this
(and the stupid potato camera's inability to hold a steady shot)