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  • 6 already.....where does time go.... Abbey has been on a whole aspirin twice daily for several months now. She flunked out of K9 school for a bum hip - her and Buick are roughly the same age. I was giving her half aspirins till the vet said a whole one was fine as she weighs 80#. Apparently vet has some other stuff for when aspirin isn’t effective. Tell him us Stineys are all thinking of him.
    Of all the paths you take in life - make sure a few of them are dirt.

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    • Originally posted by STINEY View Post
      6 already.....where does time go.... Abbey has been on a whole aspirin twice daily for several months now. She flunked out of K9 school for a bum hip - her and Buick are roughly the same age. I was giving her half aspirins till the vet said a whole one was fine as she weighs 80#. Apparently vet has some other stuff for when aspirin isn’t effective. Tell him us Stineys are all thinking of him.
      He appreciates it. Funniest thing, about Buick. He has lots of fans, he just is not a people person..
      Doing it all wrong since 1966

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      • So more work
        notice how the pivot and the ball joint are on different planes?


        though the Russian judge will never give more score for it, the C5 has a different spindle height and different pivot plane


        so let's eyeball the problem. the ball joint is about in the same place as the C3 pivot would be..... only difference is the center of the hub is 20" away from the fender vs. the 16 or so that's stock


        so time to move the frame into the frame


        first cuts


        chopped


        time to weld a brace in place


        chopped again


        now things can move up


        and it needs to move back a bit


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        • Originally posted by fatguyzinc View Post

          if those are stock C3 hubs i could use em....
          check your PMs
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          • so to more detail.
            last night I got it more centered - look at the front, bumper bolt hole



            warning if anyone is copying this - those holes are not, exactly in the same spot on either side


            another tip - the front control arm hole is 3/4" lower then the rear hole.... this picture is close to where it needs to live
            Use the hole where the lines are drawn (rear) - those holes are supposed to be in the same spot on either side. That said, trust but verify.

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            • so more fitting.... I think (hope) it'll be okay to move it up 1 1/2" .... I still need to get a legible copy of the suspension points on a C5;


              originally, my calculations showed it here


              but I talked myself out of it.... we will see, I'll mock it together before I do any more cutting to doubly verify where the wheel will end (vertically) in the wheel well. Even if this is a bit further from the ground the 1/2" at the ball joint won't make much, if any, handling difference.
              The other thing... I'm going to eventually cut the stubs off in front of the motor mount and use new metal...
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              • so a brief note on course a course change

                Originally, it was flares and 427. That remains the same, as most who follow know, I love my manual-everything C3s. However, with wide tires, 14" brakes along with a power rack (which I could simply short-circuit), I'm going to add hydraboost to the brakes and plumb the rack and then EFI on the 427. Likely I'll use a throttle-body based system (like FI tech). The reason for EFI is there is a possibility this car is going to get pitted against a C3 with a SBC 427 Corvette and a C3 with a LS 427 - both of which are going to be EFI cars, both of which have updated suspensions.... don't hold your breath for this, though, all of the cars have 2 year min. completion dates....
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                • Originally posted by SuperBuickGuy View Post
                  ... I'm going to add hydraboost to the brakes and plumb the rack ...
                  If you are contemplating a new hydroboost unit you should get Tallon Hydraulics a look. I was pleased with their products and service

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                  • Originally posted by cstmwgn View Post
                    If you are contemplating a new hydroboost unit you should get Tallon Hydraulics a look. I was pleased with their products and service
                    I've already bought it. I've had good luck piecing these things together, so it's what I'm doing again. One thing, for sure, this time is, it will be all AN fittings and stainless braid along with an large by huge cooler.

                    The other thing is if I ever decide this needs a 1000 hp LS turbo motor (say something in a 6.0 size).... it'll be ready to go
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                    • Today, I got a chance to get some good measurements off a C5 Corvette
                      what surprised me was that the cradle is 5 3/4 inches off the ground.... as of yesterday, it was 8


                      255 tire, now 7 1/4 off the ground


                      that is about right sitting in the car, yes, it looks low but I could put a 275/20 tire under it ...


                      time to make it permanent




                      the oil pan is actually above the cradle and the cradle is basically flat to the center cross member (meaning I can do a belly pan pretty easiliy


                      looking from the back


                      and again the front


                      next up is the front mount which will include the upper control arm mount. they are 13 inches above the lower control arm in the back 9 1/2 in the front..... basically as the tire goes up the upper arm is moving backward while the lower is going forward - but at different rates.... how the GM engineers figured all this out is pretty fascinating to me, hope it works with the Camaro rear
                      Last edited by SuperBuickGuy; October 16, 2018, 09:41 PM.
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                      • onward
                        starting to trial fit


                        good grief there are a lot of layers.... still wonder if it'd been better to just get a front-cut and weld it to the rails... probably would, but since when do I do things the easy way?


                        for those doing this - the plane of the edge of the cradle is the inner point of the upper control arms - the actual dimension is (and I may have to correct this) 37 1/4 from bolt face to bolt face... the cradle is 36 1/2 and you need 3/8" per side to clear the inner portion of the upper control arm... the arm itself is 13 1/2 front and 12 3/4 rear above the lower control arm bolts and the rear most arm is 3 3/8 forward of the rear most, lower-control arm edge flange (outside).

                        that - with 2" flares, is 3 1/4 in


                        note how the center line is in the middle of the hub but the upper and lower control arms aren't...


                        hopefully Sunday I'll get a chance to make all that permanent

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                        • Off point, but my way of cheering you on!
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                          Patrick & Tammy
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                          • now you see it

                            now you don't....

                            might as well keep moving forward front stubs

                            put the rack in place for clearance purposes



                            needs to fit somewhere in there


                            a bit of CAD work


                            looks like I need to work on the vertical as well



                            the interesting bit in all of this is if I decide to LS, it should be pretty much a bolt-in deal


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                            • Wow, that's going in boots and all!
                              Tim
                              Melbourne Australia

                              65 Hardtop Impala, 70 GTS Monaro, 93 "80" Landcruiser

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                              • She's gonna be something else!
                                Patrick & Tammy
                                - Long Haulin' 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014...Addicting isn't it...??

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