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  • As Ed(oletrux4evr) states "Loud pipes save lives"... It's a safety feature
    Patrick & Tammy
    - Long Haulin' 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014...Addicting isn't it...??

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    • Originally posted by silver_bullet View Post
      As Ed(oletrux4evr) states "Loud pipes save lives"... It's a safety feature
      Sadly, this no longer works (if it ever did). Today's idiots are driving their air conditioned cars with noise-resistant windows rolled up and with their ear buds plugged in so they aren't hearing your pipes - or anything else. So loud pipes only annoy the driver of said loud pipes. Don't believe me? Just look around in traffic.

      Dan

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      • Dan speaks truth - as vehicles have become more sound proof - even the railroads increased the decibel level of the train horns in 2010.
        There's always something new to learn.

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        • Originally posted by silver_bullet View Post
          As Ed(oletrux4evr) states "Loud pipes save lives"... It's a safety feature
          I argued this at the engineering challenge, I'll let you know in a few hours how successful that argument is....
          Doing it all wrong since 1966

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          • FiTech.
            Great customer service, but I'm starting to have second thoughts
            this sight is become way too common


            this is what it takes to replace the computer

            pull the injectors, pull the front then pray your way to get the computer back in place.....


            This problems were as follows. The computer went out on day one after one track 'session' (but not really a session). Maybe heat? I dunno. So I ran 6 hours round trip to get a replacement computer.... and it worked right up to the point it needed to run the fan.... In talking to another guy there, his experience with a new FiTech was the computer provided a positive signal (as opposed to a negative one with the old computer). Even with the fan disconnected, I couldn't get it to run right..... so there will be a solid 3 or 4 hours next week on the phone with them trying to resolve its issues (which I suspect will be yet another computer)....

            and let's recount, that's 2 computers on my FJ40, 3 injectors. 3 (maybe 4) computers on this one and only under warranty because of the manufacturer defect on the throttle body. Some how the tune we had in the computer got lost, but even that wouldn't save us....

            I honestly don't know what's next. I really don't want to change the entire fuel system but I can because I have the carb setup I originally was going to run... to be continued

            oh and now the grills seem to have slowed the air down to cool the car.... that I have fixes for... .but just one more thing
            Doing it all wrong since 1966

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            • Originally posted by SuperBuickGuy View Post
              now the grills seem to have slowed the air down to cool the car.

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              • Well that’s frustrating !

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                • Bummer. The dyno guy here hates FiTech and has switched to Holley TB systems with excellent luck - that's what he installed on the Volvo. Evidently Holley has improved their stuff since your experience but then Carolina Dyno IS a retail outlet for them so maybe he gets better service.

                  Dan

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                  • two of the problems have one source. I didn't realize that the headlight motors could draw 30 amps. I have a 30 amp breaker on the headlight motors AND the fans. Fans are 13 amps each.... still no answer on the EFI... but I have a fun time ahead of me rewiring a bunch of stuff.
                    Doing it all wrong since 1966

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                    • to recap.
                      1) put dog to sleep night before
                      2) got no sleep, so had to stop on the way
                      3) my wife's dog took off looking for him - didn't find out until I had crossed the border to California
                      4) dog found after substantial effort (though I suppose it's funny - but dog got 1/8 mile away, someone captured her, took her to the local vet... dogs don't get away with anything around here ;) ) but it was 8 pm before someone who might know someone mentioned the impoundment and the vet closed at 7. Thankfully the next morning (while still on my way) found out dog was fine.... Old dame dog decided she didn't want to eat because of the stress.... (did I mention they're both Search and Rescue trailing K9s, so a lot of time and money invested in them both?)
                      5) Everything worked fine when I took the car through tech
                      6) but there was the start of the cascade of problems.... in tech they checked the lights, which caused the fuse to blow which powered the lights and the electric fans
                      7) car got warm-ish on the lap.... that probably overheated the computer.... which it shouldn't, but pictures tonight tell another story
                      8) computer went, took 7 hours to resolve and missed 3 events
                      9) car ran fine that night but didn't warm up
                      10) tuned IAC, went to the autocross to walk it, car was overheating.... no fans.
                      11) spent a lot of time wishing I had a bunch of stuff here in the shop - the guy with the silver C4 was a hero, he did have all sorts of parts.
                      12) hot wired the fans..... alternator took a dump

                      I probably could have fixed that but by then I was done.

                      However
                      on the plus side
                      1) I made a number of new friends
                      2) I got to go around Big Willow at 70% in my C3
                      3) My friends here dropped everything to help find my wife's dog
                      4) I got a lot of love about the car.... and 5
                      5) I'll fix it all and learn while doing it.

                      Sure, I wish it'd worked perfect, but I wasn't the first to go down or leave. And my goodness is my car fun to drive at even 70%.
                      Doing it all wrong since 1966

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                      • so the lights didn't go up, but what's worse is only one motor was connected to the mechanism.... I saw this there, but given everything else... did nothing about it

                        40 amp relay, 12.8 (25.6 total) amp draw.... not good (this is the fans)

                        and a hot mess

                        what tripped me to the problem was the fuse kept tripping and not opening the light. I replaced the fuse and it was the amps being drawn, not just a faulty circuit breaker.

                        with that said, the motors could be drawing too much when hot.... this, I will test once it's back together.
                        Doing it all wrong since 1966

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                        • Originally posted by SuperBuickGuy View Post
                          I really don't want to change the entire fuel system but I can because I have the carb setup I originally was going to run... to be continued

                          i got $5 says that is the single best thing you could do.. i bet
                          it runs better, cleaner, more consistent AND makes more power...

                          dinosaurs rule.






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                          • Maybe go up in wire size to lessen the load to the fans?
                            We use 2/0 cables for battery cables and almost pinky sized wires for the fans. That is running no alternator. Batteries last 2-3 derby that way. But to be safe, we always charged them before a show.

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                            • Originally posted by fatguyzinc View Post


                              i got $5 says that is the single best thing you could do.. i bet
                              it runs better, cleaner, more consistent AND makes more power...

                              dinosaurs rule.
                              The truth is this. I run what I believe is best. I don't care what that might be. Whatever works. That means, it could be a carb, it could be EFI, it could be me taking a dump in a toilet bowl...

                              Carbs are slower on the autocross. Period. I love simplicity, but I don't love bogging due to fuels slosh.
                              Doing it all wrong since 1966

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                              • Originally posted by Deaf Bob View Post
                                Maybe go up in wire size to lessen the load to the fans?
                                We use 2/0 cables for battery cables and almost pinky sized wires for the fans. That is running no alternator. Batteries last 2-3 derby that way. But to be safe, we always charged them before a show.
                                I think the worst thing I did was keep the old wiring. I really don't want to rewire the car, and really don't think I have enough time to buy, rewire, then test before July 17.... that said, I'm not going in July if the car hasn't run at least one track day and one autocross without problems before I go.
                                Doing it all wrong since 1966

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