Project Tom - '90 Volvo 240

[Russell]

I'll mention that to the subject the next time our dogs find a one....

Some animals have jobs and earn their keep, my dog is good for unconditional love, and making hair appear on everything I own. While the first is pretty cool I am not always sure it out weights the second and the cost of ownership.

[SuperBuickGuy]

I thought we were talking about a Volvo?

what is this, BS purity?

[SuperBuickGuy]

I think the key is profit. If you are a breeder / producer / value adder of stock, with the intention to sell and make a profit, then I can see you being a farmer. But hay burners just as my kibble burner is a pet not a business. My dog like a lot of people's horses is a liability not a producer.

I'll mention that to the subject the next time our dogs find a one....

[SuperBuickGuy]

The farmer is harvesting milk that is sold, milk is food. Therefore dairy = farm.

Having pet horses is not a farm.

I double dog dare you to approach an udder with something sharp and used in harvesting.... milk is a product as is meat....

[silver_bullet]

BTW... Dairy farmers don't get a day off... Cows must be milked twice a day minimum, or they dry up... Cousin runs a dairy farm with 1100 head, milks 3 times a day... 3 shifts, Holding tank is one of three 3000 gallon trailers

[Russell]

I thought we were talking about a Volvo?

Like you have never seen a side track here
I am jealous that you can do an engine swap on a 1990 and not have the State bust your balls. Here in the communist state of North Cacalacky they inspect cars for 35 years. If you don't have a "guy" it's a royal pain. Most stations don't want to inspect my mustang fearing I am out to bust them.
A couple years ago a guy gave me a hard time because it had a manual rack and pinion and no power steering pump. Hopefully inspection will go well this year. Last year I took it back to the place that did it before and left the previous years receipt on the seat showing they passed it last year.

[DanStokes]

I thought we were talking about a Volvo?

Sorry. We kinda went off track (pretty normal around here).

Dan

[BBR]

I thought we were talking about a Volvo?

[DanStokes]

I think the key is profit. If you are a breeder / producer / value adder of stock, with the intention to sell and make a profit, then I can see you being a farmer. But hay burners just as my kibble burner is a pet not a business. My dog like a lot of people's horses is a liability not a producer.

True! I'll see your kibble burner and raise you one!

I actually was in the horse business for a while as a side gig. We had a horse trailer and charged folks to take their horses to shows or wherever (usually, our horse was in the other stall). Never did make much at it but we DID try. That was with Wife #2.

Dan

[Russell]

But..... Those in the equestrian business are growing horses to be sold for (hopefully) profit much like beef cattle or sheep. It can take as many as 7 years for that investment to pay off as a result of breeding, allowing the horse to grow up, then subsequent training for the intended purpose for the horse to be marketable. It is a legitimate business and people do make a living that way. So horse farming is a legitimate farm. The real question is why don't these rules apply to canine business? I have no clue on that one.

Dan

I think the key is profit. If you are a breeder / producer / value adder of stock, with the intention to sell and make a profit, then I can see you being a farmer. But hay burners just as my kibble burner is a pet not a business. My dog like a lot of people's horses is a liability not a producer.

[DanStokes]

But..... Those in the equestrian business are growing horses to be sold for (hopefully) profit much like beef cattle or sheep. It can take as many as 7 years for that investment to pay off as a result of breeding, allowing the horse to grow up, then subsequent training for the intended purpose for the horse to be marketable. It is a legitimate business and people do make a living that way. So horse farming is a legitimate farm. The real question is why don't these rules apply to canine business? I have no clue on that one.

Dan

[Russell]

you know, with all this farm talk...

Why is a dairy considered a farm?

The farmer is harvesting milk that is sold, milk is food. Therefore dairy = farm.

Having pet horses is not a farm.

[STINEY]

Indeed.

Along those lines - why is a horse owner qualified for tax exempt status for equine stuff based on ownership alone? It’s not the 1800’s.

[SuperBuickGuy]

you know, with all this farm talk...

Why is a dairy considered a farm?

[Deaf Bob]

farming (or ranching for that matter) is not for the faint of heart.... it's one of the few professions that you work all year and could have worse-then-nothing to show for it...

Ain't that the truth.. Raised sheep, 150 breeding ewes with 150% (meaning 1/2 of the ewes gave twins.) I was tired all the time, broke, could not go anywhere! Then had 20 Black Anguses, better but still lots of work.
On top of a 4-10 job.
Young and fit, was ok... Now? Pffft, like my recliner too much..