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  • #16
    Sorry, I've been kind of "off the grid" or "off my meds" or whatever and missed a lot of this thread. Why would you put an LS in there when you can 153.00 Ebay turbo that 351? Heck, you could go 700hp with a stock HO Mustang roller cam and it would idle like a kitten.

    What kind of junk is inside that mill? Heads? I saw enough exhaust pipe to think it's got shorties right? Perfect turbo fodder. Compress the door gaps. lol.
    Flying south, with a flock of bird dogs.

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    • #17
      NO LS!!!! The current plan is to retune the 5.8 and drive and enjoy it. The last time on the dyno (MANY years ago) it made 300 at the wheels with a very conservative tune so I think we can step it up a bit w/o major changes. Edelbrock heads, Comp X-Treme Energy cam, Trick Flow intake with Accufab throttle body, big MAF (can't remember the maker), and other bits and pieces along with chassis bits from Max Motorsports and other vendors. It's a very pleasant car to drive.

      Dan

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      • #18
        Nothing significant as I await a new fuel tank and supporting stuff. My big breakthru was blasting the fuel filter bracket in the blast cabinet, painting it Rustoleum gray, and reinstalling it. Not too exciting but it was SOMETHING.

        Dan

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        • #19
          Originally posted by DanStokes View Post
          NO LS!!!! The current plan is to retune the 5.8 and drive and enjoy it.
          LS motors have their place - under my hood is fine!

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          Just back from the tuner to see what he could do to improve idle and low speed driving, since the previous owner put an aluminium flywheel on it.

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          • #20
            Nice! Not sayin' they don't make power just not my cup of tea. And I like my 5.8.

            Did they change the tune any? If so, how many HP gain? I plan to take Stanger in to Randy at Carolina Dyno for a retune when I have him back on the road. He's right at 300 wheel HP following the initial build and that was a very conservative tune so I know there's lots more in there.

            Dan
            Last edited by DanStokes; November 26, 2020, 09:21 AM.

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            • #21
              Hi Dan

              The primary goal of the tuning was to improve low speed drivability and stalling - the car is cammed and has a lightweight flywheel, so as the engine comes off cold start it occasionally cuts out as I back out of my driveway onto the street if the idle speed dips too low. The tuner took out a little excess fuel and added timing <2000 rpm to help this.

              Otherwise, compared to the dyno test I did in September the tune picked up single digit HP and about 20 lb ft torque.

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              He looked at a few options, some of which made more power at slightly higher RPM but were beginning to knock, so he backed it off for the final version.

              He thinks that there could be another 30-40hp available with a flexfuel conversion and E85, which I will probably do over the winter ready for next season.

              Coincidentally, I'm buying an Edelbrock heads/ intake / cam/ carb kit for a 351 for a friend in Germany for his '70 Torino at the moment.

              Andy

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              • #22
                I have the Edelbrock heads but a Trick Flow intake. The reason for the Trick Flow intake was fiscal. The two seem to play well together but I might have bought a TF top end kit if I did it again but I wasn't going to use their cam so I did it the way I did.

                Dan

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by DanStokes View Post
                  I have the Edelbrock heads but a Trick Flow intake. The reason for the Trick Flow intake was fiscal. The two seem to play well together but I might have bought a TF top end kit if I did it again but I wasn't going to use their cam so I did it the way I did.

                  Dan
                  As I remember it, the Twisted Wedge heads with much of a cam need specific valve reliefs in the pistons... DSS and Probe / Coast High Performance shipped a lot of shortblocks with both reliefs cut in them.

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                  Flying south, with a flock of bird dogs.

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                  • #24
                    Well, THAT'S a relief!

                    My shortblock is as Ford made it so that might have been a consideration. I put this together a long time ago so I don't remember all of the decision-making processes. Dang, that must have been 20+ years ago!

                    Dan

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                    • #25
                      I've been waiting for parts, some of which showed up today. Having not worked on the ol' boy in at least 10 years I was surprised to find that you can no longer run up to AdvanceZone and score whatever you need. They can't even order things like brake calipers and similar common stuff so it's mail order given that the shop near Charlottle let me down - radio silence. CJ Pony Parts had much of it and NPD had the rest so away I go.

                      Boxes came from CJ today so I got started fitting out the tank.

                      Here's the BBK (actually a Walbro) 225 LPH pump in place on the new pump support. In following pics you'll see that the big hose clamp is gone as it wouldn't fit thru the hole. I wanted to clamp it because the pump could move up and down a bit.

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                      And the pump/support assembly installed. It took a little fiddling but all in all both the tank (from Canada) and the pump support seemed to be pretty decent quality. I opted up for the "better" tank hoping it has better rustproofing.

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                      And a shot of the inside of the tank w/pump assembly installed. The hole in the side (see above) is where the filler neck comes in but for now it makes a good photography port. It reassuring to know that everything looks OK in there. Notice that I substituted a tie wrap for the hose clamp. I tightened the hose clamp so the tie wrap would be extra tight then installed the tie wrap and removed the clamp which worked great.

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                      • #26
                        I'm glad to see this car being gotten back on the road . I couldn't believe people parked perfectly running cars !
                        Previously HoosierL98GTA

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Dan Barlow View Post
                          I'm glad to see this car being gotten back on the road . I couldn't believe people parked perfectly running cars !
                          We didn't mean to but it just sort of ....... happened.

                          Dan

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by DanStokes View Post

                            We didn't mean to but it just sort of ....... happened.

                            Dan
                            yeah yeah, we know, you'll fix it 'someday'
                            Doing it all wrong since 1966

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                            • #29
                              Actually, all it was missing to pass the state inspection was the E-brake cables (I think the Cobra ones will work with the TurboCoupe rear end that I'm running). It's a round-to-it that I never got - until now.

                              Dan

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                              • #30
                                Well, that's the brakes!

                                Still awaiting the fuel sender (NPD had to send it from the California warehouse) so in the meantime I had all the front brake bits so I decided to assemble it before I lost the parts. I'll back bleed the system but have to wait until it's running to do the final pump-the-pedal bleed if needed. I went full-boat and even did the flex lines. The hard lines looked fine so I didn't mess with them. The rotors were fairly new when I parked the car so I just had them turned - we'll see if O'Riley's knows how to turn a rotor but their lathe looked fairly idiot-proof.

                                So far I've ignored the rears but the calipers may or may not be seized. Hoping for the best. If they move I'll need to work out the Ebrake cables.

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