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  • dave.g.in.gansevoort
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    Exchanged the 2 gas cylinders today, and got bit by the hydrostatic retest on one of the bottles. Normally if you empty and exchange quick enough, i.e. before the retest date, you don't have to pay. I don't use the tig much these days, so the bottle on the cart had been there for about 2 years. Which was over a year past... .

    That's the bad news. The good news is that I got the T10 transmission apart . Now I have to get bearings, gaskets, seals, syncros, and a new input shaft .

    I'll get a picture of the old one later, right now I'm searching for sources for a new one. As you may remember, this one was shortened for use in a dragster. And I guess the guy that did it decided that it was better if being slammed into high gear would be better without the synchro ring. There's a custom machined thing, that mates with the slider that has been welded, nicely I must say, to the input shaft. Sort of a poor man's dog ring transmission system. It's a little bit knicked up.

    So what is the bottom line? $$$$$$$$$$! Still cheaper than a new one (by a bunch). But it was a 2.20 low gear close ratio T10, and it's eluding me to find a replacement so far...

    Well, back to the internet. Parts to find, money to spend!

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  • dave.g.in.gansevoort
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ID:	1352512 Yeah, but where does that big shaft go? Seriously, those 2 cases, that output shaft, and a few parts from the Speedway box on the rolling scaffold will combine to make a close ratio T10, circa 1962. I have to procure a rebuild kit, to make sure I have gaskets, seals, and new synchro rings. Hey I rebuilt an M22 rock crusher transmission years ago because the case was worn out, and didn't replace the syncros the first time. I think that tells you the rest of the story.

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ID:	1352513 Here's the new roll-around. The bottom drawer is currently empty! I wonder how long that will last!
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    The rest of the garage is pretty much organized. That 2nd portable bench with stuff on it is the last pile that needs to be sorted out and dealt with. So garage sorted, work on the Whatever project rebooted, and the new to me lathe works great. I made over the tig welder cart and with it shortened it fits in the garage much better.

    Tomorrow, 2 cylinders to the welding supply house for exchange, and maybe later a little bit more on the T10...

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  • DanStokes
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    Originally posted by dave.g.in.gansevoort View Post
    Well, now I have that 5/8-11 rh tap. Next thing you know, I'll need a lh tap that size! And not have one. I got fine taps both rh and lh, including some oddball sizes, like 11/16-18. You know, like old Ford tie rod ends are threaded. And I have one for Swage Lok fittings, 9/16-18. I know of nothing else that uses that thread. I was making an emissions sampling device of my own design, and needed to make a special fitting to be an adjustment part.

    So I got the new tap, and finished the welding cart axle. Then welded it to the cart. The last step was to attach the casters to the other side of the cart. Tomorrow reassembling the welder on the cart! Then the garage cleanup is 97-98% finished. There's a drain pan full of miscellaneous odds and ends to get sorted and a few other odds and ends to get stored away. But that's just a matter of a little bit of effort.

    So I have started on the T10 transmission. I just hope that I can remember what goes where...
    Gears. You're welcome.

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  • dave.g.in.gansevoort
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    Well, now I have that 5/8-11 rh tap. Next thing you know, I'll need a lh tap that size! And not have one. I got fine taps both rh and lh, including some oddball sizes, like 11/16-18. You know, like old Ford tie rod ends are threaded. And I have one for Swage Lok fittings, 9/16-18. I know of nothing else that uses that thread. I was making an emissions sampling device of my own design, and needed to make a special fitting to be an adjustment part.

    So I got the new tap, and finished the welding cart axle. Then welded it to the cart. The last step was to attach the casters to the other side of the cart. Tomorrow reassembling the welder on the cart! Then the garage cleanup is 97-98% finished. There's a drain pan full of miscellaneous odds and ends to get sorted and a few other odds and ends to get stored away. But that's just a matter of a little bit of effort.

    So I have started on the T10 transmission. I just hope that I can remember what goes where...

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  • DanStokes
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    I usually have every tap and die EXCEPT the one I need. I feel your pain.

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  • dave.g.in.gansevoort
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    Got out to the garage today. Was going to make a new axle for the tig welder cart. Got out a piece of tubing, the set of morse taper drill, selected the correct drill size for 5/8-11 tap, put the drill in the lathe, chucked up the tubing in the lathe, and bored the ends. By god having a real lathe is the cats pajamas! It worked a treat! But I wasn't able to finish the axle.

    All that above took about 10 minutes start to finish. I was in the garage for an hour! Doing what, you may ask? Looking for the tap I just knew that I had. Guess what? I don't have one! Now don't start on me and say, see you cleaned up the garage and now you can't find anything. You'd be right, except you're not! I went through everything and every tool box. Boxes, drawers, you name it, I searched it. I actually have organized stuff so well that I was able to find anything else. 5/8-18 left AND right taps! 3/4 fine AND coarse taps, both left and right. 1/2 fine AND coarse taps, same story. I guess tomorrow I'll go to Ace Hardware and get a new one!

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  • dave.g.in.gansevoort
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    Originally posted by Captain View Post
    Blue Canaries.....

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    Now that's material for a t-shirt AND a poster.

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  • Captain
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    Blue Canaries.....

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  • Captain
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    I will find it Somewhere.....
    from my Hazardous Materials FD Training
    About Scene Responses and Post it Here Later...

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  • dave.g.in.gansevoort
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    Originally posted by Captain View Post
    I could be Wrong,
    but T5's for Ford has the Speedometer cable port on the opposite side of a Chevy T5.
    Just a meer another Whole Trans Purchase for a tail housing. Guaranteed it will be Cheaper that just buying a tail housing though.
    I have enough parts, just have to get motorvated.

    It's amazing how the body reacts to foreign matter invading it. A lot of the work, published or not, that I did researching emissions involved alcohol in the blends. Didn't always get ppe on. And I probably should have used charcoal filter respirators every time. But it was just a quick run into the dyno cell, or Iwas only adding a liter of blender fuel, and clocks atickin'. So 200 ml ethanol (hey we drink it right?) in 800 ml of blend stock.

    Well anyway, now I have reactions to the fuel AND alcohols. Triggers migraines and I mean right now! And I did something really stupid at a road course one weekend. A formula car did an eggbeater, shedding parts along the track. In our section! So while the medical personnel were dealing with the driver, I was picking up the parts, not realizing that those things that were squarish and made of felt were the AGM material out of the battery. All of a sudden my hands felt like they were on fire! Then I realized what I had stumbled into. Finding a puddle I soaked my hands. Then was told to get to medical. 20-25 minutes with running COLD water running on my hands! Now they were numb! And today? My hands crack and dry out so bad...

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  • Captain
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    I could be Wrong,
    but T5's for Ford has the Speedometer cable port on the opposite side of a Chevy T5.
    Just a meer another Whole Trans Purchase for a tail housing. Guaranteed it will be Cheaper that just buying a tail housing though.

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  • Russell
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    Originally posted by DanStokes View Post
    I have to protect myself a lot more than I used to including masking up before I cut metal. Somehow I've become allergic - go figure. Old age is interesting.
    I am sorry to hear that. Never heard of a metal allergy. That's a good reason to go ahead and buy new dust masks. I know a gearhead who is allergic to oil and grease. I assume it's from exposure, and now he reacts to it. I try to wear latex gloves when doing dirty work. I start off good then they break or I have to take them off and I get dirty the rest of job.

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  • DanStokes
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    I have to protect myself a lot more than I used to including masking up before I cut metal. Somehow I've become allergic - go figure. Old age is interesting.

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  • dave.g.in.gansevoort
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    Originally posted by Russell View Post
    Dan covered me on the TV cable. The current rage in stick shift drag racing is face plated transmissions and shifting by bouncing off the rev limiter. This would require fewer times you would need to push the clutch in!

    I do think moving the speedo gear on the shaft of a T5 just requires drilling a hole in the main shaft? I assume it hardened so might not drill easily?
    Probably surface hardened by carburizing or so similar process. Got an index full of solid carbide drill bits. They cut thru hardened stuff just fine. I've read all of the stuff I could find on the internet about that. I suppose once I have them apart I can see if I can get the speedometer drive for the S10 T5 tailhousing moved without fudging things up. As the week wears on, my goals are to get all of the current transmission choices up on benches, and take a look see at them.

    I don't lift things, so even that becomes a little bit of a chore. Engine crane, lifting straps, then get aligned with the bench. These kinds of projects were so easy when I was young and dumb. Just pick it up and throw it on the bench. But then I blew out a couple of discs, then surgery, then 2 more discs, and here we are...

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  • Russell
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    Dan covered me on the TV cable. The current rage in stick shift drag racing is face plated transmissions and shifting by bouncing off the rev limiter. This would require fewer times you would need to push the clutch in!

    I do think moving the speedo gear on the shaft of a T5 just requires drilling a hole in the main shaft? I assume it hardened so might not drill easily?
    Last edited by Russell; April 8, 2024, 08:04 PM.

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