Belinda the Beluga Whale 1990 Chev r3500 build

[SuperBuickGuy]

Kind of curious on your opinion on a tow pig , open diff or a unit to get power going to both sides .

open, if you need traction, you put chains on both wheels.
the other benefit is it drives with less steering input when the rear wheels are trying to follow ruts
with that said, I have 2 (or 4 depending on how you count) badadz 4x4s if it gets 'stuck'

and with that also said, driving something that lose traction with both tires in slippery conditions is not a lot of fun. Sure, one wheel peel is 'embarrassing' but side sliding into a ditch is worse (or having both tires locking up then jackknifing isn't optimal either).

[SuperBuickGuy]

That fork lift is cheating. You're supposed to wait until you can gather 4 friends (plus you to align bolt holes), ply them with the beverage of their choice and promises of lunch, and get them to manhandle (or personhandle, depending) that sucker onto the frame. One of the friends will be significantly shorter than the rest (that is usually me) making keeping the bed level pretty much impossible. So yes, you're doing it all wrong.......

at this point, finding 4 friends who don't have spinal specialists on call is problematic

[silver_bullet]

open, if you need traction, you put chains on both wheels.
the other benefit is it drives with less steering input when the rear wheels are trying to follow ruts
with that said, I have 2 (or 4 depending on how you count) badadz 4x4s if it gets 'stuck'

and with that also said, driving something that lose traction with both tires in slippery conditions is not a lot of fun. Sure, one wheel peel is 'embarrassing' but side sliding into a ditch is worse (or having both tires locking up then jackknifing isn't optimal either).

I guess an air or e locker is the ticket then....

[DanStokes]

at this point, finding 4 friends who don't have spinal specialists on call is problematic

Too true!

[Dan Barlow]

I guess an air or e locker is the ticket then....

I'm not an air locker fan I don't trust that little airline . A few of the off-road YouTubers I watch have had problems with them . In Airlockers defense , non have converted to a more conventional traction multiplier . I haven't seen the need for it yet but we had a fairly warm winter last year.

[SuperBuickGuy]

I guess an air or e locker is the ticket then....

if I need to pull the truck, I can use the Corvette.

[SuperBuickGuy]

I'm not an air locker fan I don't trust that little airline . A few of the off-road YouTubers I watch have had problems with them . In Airlockers defense , non have converted to a more conventional traction multiplier . I haven't seen the need for it yet but we had a fairly warm winter last year.

I'm not sure I'd take product information from whistlin' diesel or pretty much any tuber

I've done a lot of wheeling with people with air lockers and the only problem I've seen with them is the seal on the locker will fail. With that said, I've not yet seen a situation where it won't lock, just that the compressor is running its little piston out trying to keep up.

[silver_bullet]

I'm not an air locker fan I don't trust that little airline . A few of the off-road YouTubers I watch have had problems with them . In Airlockers defense , non have converted to a more conventional traction multiplier . I haven't seen the need for it yet but we had a fairly warm winter last year.

An e locker might be a better option…. Been used in OTR trucks for decades….. IIRC Eaton makes them for the big Danas

[Dan Barlow]

I don't watch whistlin' diesel . Fab Rats , Matt's Off-road Recovery , Rudy's Off-road Adventure and Designwould be the people I watch and trust . Plus I'm more of a mechanical kind of guy .

[fatguyzinc]

no votes for the lincoln locker?

[Dan Barlow]

open, if you need traction, you put chains on both wheels.
the other benefit is it drives with less steering input when the rear wheels are trying to follow ruts
with that said, I have 2 (or 4 depending on how you count) badadz 4x4s if it gets 'stuck'

and with that also said, driving something that lose traction with both tires in slippery conditions is not a lot of fun. Sure, one wheel peel is 'embarrassing' but side sliding into a ditch is worse (or having both tires locking up then jackknifing isn't optimal either).

I don't even know anyone who owns tire chains unless you own some .

[silver_bullet]

Duallys and chains don’t get along

[SuperBuickGuy]

I don't even know anyone who owns tire chains unless you own some .

you don't wheel unless you have chains - otherwise, you left behind. I have chains for the '40, and for the Colorado (and the box trailer).... and I've used them. Chains in mud is magic

[SuperBuickGuy]

Duallys and chains don’t get along

idiots with chains will destroy anything. nice thing about duallies is you can easily get chains on the tire... just takes one block of wood.

[Loren]

I know I've said it but the locker on my Dodge was a bad deal. Tugging the front over this way and that on the highway while between cogs was annoying but worse was hauling my travel trailer up the steep windy roads of Mt. Lassen...on a curve, only the inside wheel is pulling the entire load and after a few hours of that I credit the locker with causing both rear sidewalls to fail within the next thousand miles on otherwise good tires. I had long-ago read about torque stresses and heat causing sidewall failure on heavy trucks on long uphill grades, a main reason for both rear axles on tandems to be driven when a tag would suffice in sharing static weight among more tires. On a two-wheel drive light-rear/heavy-front truck the locker got me through mud a couple times and I credit it for that so didn't switch to an open rear until I had 4WD. If I were to ever put a locker back in, it would probably be an ARB due to that compressed air has a lot more power than an electromagnet thus can have a simpler mechanism but I imagine I'd review it again first.

Maybe cables on a dually? Or you'd need the tires spaced so chains didn't jam in. I shouldn't think that for temp use you'd need them on both adjacent tires, it might even help them bite in better if they were on just one tire per side.