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    Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

    I guess this goes back to the plan for the truck. What is the intended purpose? Going for mileage (LOL)? Taking trips in it? Just a weekend tire fryer? Did you set out to conquer EFI? Wanna drive it daily? Your purpose, budget (time and money), and maximum enjoyment should help you determine what to do with it.

    You built a 500+ c.i. combo and put it in a Ranger. You have already thrown popular opinion out the window. Do what YOU want. Forget everyone else (except your family).
    Bakersfield, CA.

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      I still say your problems have been with the engine not the fuel delivery system. Sure it's a pain in the rear while having to tear into the engine, but once you stop tearing into the engine I bet you'll wish the EFI was on there. I did as John suggested, broke the engine in with a carb, made sure the mechanicals were good, then swapped over to EFI. My case I found I could pull the intake and put it back on in just under 2 hours, and my engine bay is the definition of cluttered (your's is the definition of undersized). Keep the EFI and assemble an engine a little less on the edge, it's not like you'll ever have traction, it's a truck!
      Escaped on a technicality.

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        Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

        The EFI or tuning really hasn't been a problem. All the engine problems I have had were brought on by mechanical idiocy on my part. lol

        I may very well keep it all... especially since I just bought some bigger injectors (52lb/hr) a few days ago.

        I have considered changing the elbow stuff around a bit and maybe running a traditional air cleaner element.
        Life is short. Be a do'er and not a shoulda done'er.
        1983 Mustang GT 302/T5 http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...485-bbr-s-83gt
        1973 F-250 BBF Turbo Truck http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...uck-conversion
        1986 Ford Ranger EFI 545/C6 https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...tooth-and-nail

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        • Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

          Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

          Cool
          the more of you guys that figure out all the ins and outs of the EFI DIY game - the easier it will be for me when I convert over the 54 292 inline...... yea - that'll happen sometime in the next decade, if I'm lucky....
          There's always something new to learn.

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          • Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

            Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

            I think it would have been a better idea to tackle the EFI on a combo that was simpler and less burly, so that you could later easily discern between what was an EFI learning curve issue, versus an issue with non-EFI things.

            It's why I always tell people who ask me "howdo I learn EFI the easiest possible way" I tell them, go get a $200 junkyard car that already has fuel injectors, hook up your megasquirt to that, and tune it with the stock cam and intake. It's easy to tune, and you'll learn all the noob EFI stuff the first go around, THEN go out and build a monster and EFI it. Otherwise, you're going to always be asking yourself "are the problems I am having EFI related?" I've had a few people who got rid of their EFI and went back to a carb, on engines similar to yours, only to find out that they are still breaking stuff.

            Put EFI on the go cart, put the carb back on the BBR. Although it sounded like it ran really good on the EFI once you figured out the proper length plugs to go in the heads you have.

            Randall has a good method: break it in on the carb, then go EFI. It's a bad idea to combine two steep learning curves at once.
            From experience, if you went back to a carb, you'll be overly obsessed with the tune on that, and end up wishing you could make the same changes with a keyboard instead of shutting down, spilling gas, taking an hour to try a new change, etc.

            www.realtuners.com - catch the RealTuners Radio Podcast on Youtube, Facebook, iTunes, and anywhere else podcasts are distributed!

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            • Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

              Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

              now.... will the real 'dieselgeek' please stand up?

              :D :D :D :D

              Ok, I'm done with my moment of weakness. EFI stays. I can't let this POS beat me!!! Besides, I don't think I can get a carb & a filter under a flat hood!

              ;D ;D ;D

              Life is short. Be a do'er and not a shoulda done'er.
              1983 Mustang GT 302/T5 http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...485-bbr-s-83gt
              1973 F-250 BBF Turbo Truck http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...uck-conversion
              1986 Ford Ranger EFI 545/C6 https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...tooth-and-nail

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              • Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

                Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

                You're a brave man. ;) do drop us a line or two every few months to let us know that you're still alive
                Doing it all wrong since 1966

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                • Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

                  Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

                  Did quite a bit of thinking this weekend......



                  Say "hello" to the new fuel distribution unit, a Holley 950HP. :lol: :lol:



                  with the fashionable purple billet base plate.

                  lmao @ me


                  Here's the freaking hilarious part... I'm going to leave the MS in the truck to operate the fuel pump/vacuum pump/electric fan, etc.

                  :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

                  Life is short. Be a do'er and not a shoulda done'er.
                  1983 Mustang GT 302/T5 http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...485-bbr-s-83gt
                  1973 F-250 BBF Turbo Truck http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...uck-conversion
                  1986 Ford Ranger EFI 545/C6 https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...tooth-and-nail

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                  • Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

                    Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

                    You'll be back, you'll definately be back :P
                    Escaped on a technicality.

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                    • Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

                      Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

                      lmao I ain't burning no bridges!
                      Life is short. Be a do'er and not a shoulda done'er.
                      1983 Mustang GT 302/T5 http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...485-bbr-s-83gt
                      1973 F-250 BBF Turbo Truck http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...uck-conversion
                      1986 Ford Ranger EFI 545/C6 https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...tooth-and-nail

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                      • Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

                        Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

                        you could do like some others, and have the MS run your ignition also...
                        www.realtuners.com - catch the RealTuners Radio Podcast on Youtube, Facebook, iTunes, and anywhere else podcasts are distributed!

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                          Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

                          On the air cleaner - look at the old Chrysler dual quad setups. A thin chamber over the carb and a flat passage off to the side where there's more room for the element. I mean, if you're really going back to the Middle Ages with that carb thing.

                          Dan

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                          • Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

                            Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

                            ahhhhhhhhhhhh

                            NICE!

                            what's with the crazy proform colors anyway?

                            I have a couple proform main bodies - one is like fishing lure brite green? WTF?

                            Well - I have to say I welcome you back to the land of jets, powervalves, booster venturi's air bleeds and accelerator pumps.... at least you have a fall back plan.

                            I think you'll eventually go back to the laptop side of fuel management - but at least this way you have something you can count on when those electrons just won't behave!
                            There's always something new to learn.

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                            • Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

                              Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

                              I liken it to when we go out to eat wit the kids.....

                              If I let them have the toy out of the kid's meal before they are finished eating, then they play with the toy and won't do what they are supposed to be doing (eating).

                              Pulling the EFI out of the truck is like taking the toy away from me so I can finish my dinner. lol

                              ;D ;D ;D
                              Life is short. Be a do'er and not a shoulda done'er.
                              1983 Mustang GT 302/T5 http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...485-bbr-s-83gt
                              1973 F-250 BBF Turbo Truck http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...uck-conversion
                              1986 Ford Ranger EFI 545/C6 https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...tooth-and-nail

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                              • Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

                                Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

                                Ooooh looky. Parts.

                                Holley 950hp, meet Mr. brand-new-soon-to-be-discontinued-FRPP-single-plane-intake

                                ;D



                                Life is short. Be a do'er and not a shoulda done'er.
                                1983 Mustang GT 302/T5 http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...485-bbr-s-83gt
                                1973 F-250 BBF Turbo Truck http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...uck-conversion
                                1986 Ford Ranger EFI 545/C6 https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...tooth-and-nail

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