Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

[STINEY]

Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

Sweet, thanks.

So the Wells SW514 is the same thing as the '84 Dodge K-car fan switch? Interesting....

[BBR]

Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

I put it in the intake manifold water crossover.

Part number is: SW514

This switch is insulted from ground so you have to use both terminals.


This thread has a link to a listing of thermal switches.

http://www.bangshift.com/forum/index.php?topic=13022.0

[STINEY]

Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

I used a thermal switch out of an 84 Dodge kcar to turn on the fan.

This sounds like just what I need for the 500Cadillac Mustang project. I'm using a HHR fan as well...... where did you put the switch? Block or radiator? Does it have 2 terminals and you only use 1? Got a part #?

I apologize for all the questions, just excited to see how yours is wired up.... ;D

[milner351]

Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

ATF is an exceptionally good detergent - cleans all sorts of stuff.... really well, just by soaking in it a while.

Not a good thing to work in bare handed alot tho - a friend who's a trans tech full time has had cancerous growths removed from both hands..... wear those gloves!

[DanStokes]

Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

I have a friend who is a Chem E (that's Kim, Keith). She tells me that the original engineering was just to have it find a human but the hair follicle thing was an unexpected benefit. Kinda like the discovery of Viagra's effects.

Dan

[SuperBuickGuy]

Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

Personally, I think it's engineered to find the closest hair folicle..... works as a great conditioner, though.

[DanStokes]

Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

ATF is chemically engineered to find and cover the nearest human. It's uncanny.

Dan

[BBR]

Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

Finally back together. I used a thermal switch out of an 84 Dodge kcar to turn on the fan. Sitting in the shop idling, the temp comes up to an indicated 210? and then the fan comes on and the temp starts going down. It seemed to come down to about 190 and stay there. I made a new core support piece (PITA) to hold the left side to the right side and hold the radiator and locate the fan. Turned out OK considering how many times I screwed up making it. The fact that the rad is farther forward means the stock hood latch would not work. Hello hood pins. FYI, Spectre brand hood pins are junky. Well the pins themselves are very nice, but the cover plates are stupid thin and really easy to bend.

I think I need to go back to my old camera. The flash on this one is way too intense.

Rad is about as far forward as possible. lol


Very cozy in there.


Pinned hoody.


This thing is starting to feel like a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow. Just when you think you are there, somebody up and moves the end of the damn rainbow.

I wanted to get it out today, but after yesterday's torrential rain, I might have needed 4wd to get down my alley.

Oh yeah I also installed a power inverter so I can run a laptop in there all the time, adjusted the BBR-tracs to the upper hole, fixed a leaky dipstick tube o-ring, relocated the trans coolers from the front to under the bed (turned out nice I might add) and took a semi-bath in trans fluid. I hate that stuff.

[DanStokes]

Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

Looks factory fresh. Hope this does it for you.

Dan

[BBR]

Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

Jacked around with the fan and radiator today. As usual things did not go as planned. lol I decided to make a new piece to reconnedt the core support over the radiator. Well I made it and it looked great, then I tried to close the hood and *bang*, it was a 1/4" too tall. Figures. So I decided to cut notches on the top and bottom so I could drop a section down and then weld it back. Well I screwed up and cut the notches backwards (where it would go up instead of down). So I did not get all the stuff done today that I wanted to. I did finish that part and got a coat of paint on it. I also have everything finally ready to reassemble.

I also had to fight with the lower radiator mount since I goofed (par for the course) when mocking everything up and had the bottom of the radiator sitting on the edge of the mounts instead of all the way down into the mounts.

Anyway, here's a pic of the thinned out HHR fan. I plugged it in and it really moves a lot of air. Much much more than the 12"er's it replaces.

[BBR]

Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

Cooling System Part 2 - Making the HHR fan even thinner:

Although the HHR fan is not overly deep at 4", the BBR needs it to be thinner to fit in between the water pump snout and the radiator. I test fit it and while it *did* fit, the back of the shoud behind the motor was just touching the water pump pulley.

So I did what any good gearhead does. I took a brand new part and started taking it apart. Upon close inspection I decided that the plastic area behind the motor could safely be removed. Removing this plastic (outlined in yellow) will give a net gain of 1/2". The back of the motor only sticks out 1/4" past the lip marked with a red arrow.



Next thing to be removed is the little locating tabs. They are 1/8" tall. Grind these off flush.



Once I finish these, I will check the fit again and since I have decreased the thickness by 5/8" I think it will be fine. I also will need to notch the shroud about 3/4" for lower hose clearance. This will allow me to shift the fan even more to the left away from the water pump snout.

I have 1 other trick, moving the fan blade closer to the motor and trimming the top and bottom edge of the shroud, to try if these modifications do not work. When got it, I was surprised to find that the face of the blade is flush with the left and right sides of the shroud.

[racingsnake440]

Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

Cool, look forward to seeing more when you get back to it.

[BBR]

Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

Not yet. I have been preoccupied with building a gokart for my kids, building a bike rack for my wife and re-configuring the cooling system on the BBR.

Diff will be finished after the others are straightened out.

[racingsnake440]

Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

Did you get the rear end finished up yet? Any pics?

[HoosierGTA]

Re: Big Motor, Little Truck. The BBR... aka "Tooth and Nail"

Glad you found another gear ! I can't remimber what your running for muffs but better quite it down some . I lost some hearing in my right ear from my old 350 / turbo 400 S-10 . Only had bout 300 horses but with 2 small cats and no muffs and the back window open unless it was raining (didn't care how cold it got that 350 and a good heater core kept up with it ) and a 3.42 gear man that thing howled on the inter state. O.K the way I drove it it always howled.