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  • #16
    Re: BBR's 83GT

    Thanks for the info.

    I was super glad it has the red interior. The only other color option in 83 for GT's was black. I've had one car with a black interior before and it was like climbing into a pancake griddle in the summer.

    I am surprised at the amount of little odds and ends it shares with the Ranger.
    Life is short. Be a do'er and not a shoulda done'er.
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    • #17
      Re: BBR's 83GT

      Being new to Fox bodies, I was dumbfounded when I started jacking up my roller '86 t-top mustang.

      That thing flexs like a wet noodle. Literally. Damnest thing I ever saw.

      Cars flex, this I know, but what that thing did was beyond flexing, if was more like a contortionist routine!

      I'm going with good solid homemade thru-floor subframes just to start with, and they will have a little bend in them to allow me to stick them INTO the rear subframe as far as I can pound them in, hopefully enough to tie the suspension pickup point into it. And all the way to the front up to the firewall.

      That thing needs all the help it can get!

      I wonder how much of the flexing is from the T-tops and how much is just a fox mustang thing. Like I said, I'm new to Foxes....

      Nice start, by the way! I'll trade you my cherry interior for your minty floorpan... :D
      Of all the paths you take in life - make sure a few of them are dirt.

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      • #18
        Re: BBR's 83GT

        It's a little of both.

        That's alot of missing roof!
        With real subs(read welded/in the floor style), it will stiffen up nicely.

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        • #19
          Re: BBR's 83GT

          Subframe connectors are planned as well as 6-8 point bar.

          Snagged the manual rack to power steering column adapter bushing this morning so now I'm about ready to find a manual rack for it. Probably will just get one through rockauto.
          Life is short. Be a do'er and not a shoulda done'er.
          1969 Galaxie 500 https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...ild-it-s-alive
          1998 Mustang GT https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...60-and-a-turbo
          1983 Mustang GT 545/552/302/Turbo302/552 http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...485-bbr-s-83gt
          1973 F-250 BBF Turbo Truck http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...uck-conversion
          1986 Ford Ranger EFI 545/C6 https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...tooth-and-nail

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          • #20
            Re: BBR's 83GT

            Just for giggles, is the original Holley 4180-c still on the motor?

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            • #21
              Re: BBR's 83GT

              Originally posted by BigBlockRanger
              Subframe connectors are planned as well as 6-8 point bar.

              Snagged the manual rack to power steering column adapter bushing this morning so now I'm about ready to find a manual rack for it. Probably will just get one through rockauto.
              I have heard (and may be wrong about it) that you can run power rack with the fluid drained as a manual, this was from a guy at delphi who built racks.

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              • #22
                Re: BBR's 83GT

                Originally posted by Shawn Anderson
                Originally posted by BigBlockRanger
                Subframe connectors are planned as well as 6-8 point bar.

                Snagged the manual rack to power steering column adapter bushing this morning so now I'm about ready to find a manual rack for it. Probably will just get one through rockauto.
                I have heard (and may be wrong about it) that you can run power rack with the fluid drained as a manual, this was from a guy at delphi who built racks.

                Or, just loop the hoses.

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                • #23
                  Re: BBR's 83GT

                  I have a red door panel from an '89... probably no good to you - as I don't have the other side!

                  I also have some quarter windows from the the '89-'90 era - again - probably not much use to you... but either of these are yours for the shipping.

                  Kenny Brown out of Indianapolis makes some really nice weld in frame connector systems for these cars - I used them on my '90. They tie in the seat mounts. He also sells some square tube type "jacking rails" that weld to the hem flange along the inside of the rocker panel where it meets the floor - these not only allow you to jack up the car anywhere along the hem flange without worrying about caving it in - but also add more rigidity to the unibody - he then sells another part that ties these two together.

                  Of course - with your mad skills - you can fab all this stuff up from scratch just fine.

                  Since it has some severe lack of roof issues - I would strongly suggest adding at least a single hoop at the B pillar to add some more strength to the unibody - and if you ever plan to run slicks - reinforce the upper control arm mounts - somebody makes a kit and calls them "battle boxes" basically reinforces that whole section of floor so you're much less likely to pull the upper mounts right out of the floor when the slicks bite hard out of the whole.

                  ENJOY!

                  Check out post 38 in Morgan's Mustang thread - he's done just what I described above - tied together the hem flange to the subframe connectors...
                  There's always something new to learn.

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                  • #24
                    Re: BBR's 83GT

                    I have the Maximum Motorsports 6 point in my 'Stang. It fit perfectly and stiffened the car amazingly. Mine has no top at all and was a flexin' fool. Now I can open and close the doors with the car jacked up - a little sticky but it can be done. I have a lot of Maximum Motorsports stuff on my 'Stang and it's great stuff that does what they say it will - I heartily recommend them.

                    Dan

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                    • #25
                      Re: BBR's 83GT

                      I was looking at the Max Motorsports stuff last week. Looks like good stuff.

                      John -> I was thinking about the quarter window swap, but after looking into it, it looks like it may be more trouble than I want to mess with.
                      Life is short. Be a do'er and not a shoulda done'er.
                      1969 Galaxie 500 https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...ild-it-s-alive
                      1998 Mustang GT https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...60-and-a-turbo
                      1983 Mustang GT 545/552/302/Turbo302/552 http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...485-bbr-s-83gt
                      1973 F-250 BBF Turbo Truck http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...uck-conversion
                      1986 Ford Ranger EFI 545/C6 https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...tooth-and-nail

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                      • #26
                        Re: BBR's 83GT

                        i want an 87-93 gt or lx notch so bad ;D

                        i do like the 4-eyes stangs a lot though ;)

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                        • #27
                          Re: BBR's 83GT

                          Originally posted by 1988montecarloss
                          i want an 87-93 gt or lx notch so bad ;D

                          i do like the 4-eyes stangs a lot though ;)
                          I'm with you on the "notch".

                          400lbs lighter, and stiffer than any other variation of that chassis.

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                          • #28
                            Re: BBR's 83GT

                            My kids like the 4 eyes better than the aero nose cars. lol I like them both, but I think 4 eyes are pretty cool. Title on this car says 3100#.

                            As far as just running the power rack unhosed, I've read that they are pretty hard to steer and with the weight of the big motor hanging out there, I think it will be a bit much.

                            I can't wait to get the Ranger out of the shop!
                            Life is short. Be a do'er and not a shoulda done'er.
                            1969 Galaxie 500 https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...ild-it-s-alive
                            1998 Mustang GT https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...60-and-a-turbo
                            1983 Mustang GT 545/552/302/Turbo302/552 http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...485-bbr-s-83gt
                            1973 F-250 BBF Turbo Truck http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...uck-conversion
                            1986 Ford Ranger EFI 545/C6 https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...tooth-and-nail

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                            • #29
                              Re: BBR's 83GT

                              Originally posted by min301
                              Just for giggles, is the original Holley 4180-c still on the motor?
                              ???

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                              • #30
                                Re: BBR's 83GT

                                Yep. It also has some FMS aluminum vc's on it.
                                Life is short. Be a do'er and not a shoulda done'er.
                                1969 Galaxie 500 https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...ild-it-s-alive
                                1998 Mustang GT https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...60-and-a-turbo
                                1983 Mustang GT 545/552/302/Turbo302/552 http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...485-bbr-s-83gt
                                1973 F-250 BBF Turbo Truck http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...uck-conversion
                                1986 Ford Ranger EFI 545/C6 https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...tooth-and-nail

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