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  • Re: BBR's 83GT - turbo 302 time!

    This project is not dead!

    That have been some skunk-work ramblings between Jake and I about some performance enhancing upgrades.....
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    • Re: BBR's 83GT - turbo 302 time!

      Was gonna ask if the boys drive this, if just to keep in practice..
      Will help when he races.

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        Judd (my youngest) learned to drive it the other day. He made about 500 laps around the back parking lot learning to stop/start. I told him to get on it hard a couple of times. He came back with shaky legs. Adrenaline rush. lol
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          • Re: BBR's 83GT - turbo 302 time!

            Judd just got his driver's license!

            We are planing to take this pile on RMRW this coming year. We would like to improve performance some. The nitrous is sorta fun, but I don't think I want to fund a week's worth of nitrous fills and I only have one bottle. It's not something I really want to pursue much further.

            We are currently tossing ideas back and forth. Hee hee.
            Last edited by BBR; October 4th, 2019, 08:36 AM.
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            • Re: BBR's 83GT - turbo 302 time!

              Like turbos. Just sayin'. And the turbo bottle never runs empty.

              Dan
              Last edited by DanStokes; October 4th, 2019, 08:13 AM.
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              • Re: BBR's 83GT - turbo 302 time!

                Not sure if we want to do that or a cam/head/intake change, but the topic has definitely come up. If we did, it would be super basic. After all, Judd is a drag race noobie just like Jake was.
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                • Re: BBR's 83GT - turbo 302 time!

                  Ok, as if I don't have enough stuff going on, we are going to try to add a GT45 turbo to this thing. I already ordered the turbo and hot side and they will be here Wednesday. I went with the 1.05 AR turbine so maybe we will have a decent chance of spooling it. $145 for the hot side and $150 for the turbo is stupid cheap and really hard to pass up.

                  The hotside looks like an On3 kit. Knock off maybe. Not sure if you can have a chinese knock off of a chinese product, but whatever.

                  We will convert our Holley 650 DP to a blow-thru carb and limit boost to 6-8 lbs. The goal is to run in the low 12's on 91 octane gas, much like it does on the N2O.

                  The 302 has forged pistons so it should be good to go. Hopefully we can do this for less than the cost of a head/cam/intake upgrade.
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                    And it shouldn't need as steep gearing as it would if you wen the hi perf NA route. Should be fun
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                      Yes. It has 3.55's and 28" tires so it might work ok. The hope is have Judd do most of the wrenching.
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                      • Re: BBR's 83GT - turbo 302 time!

                        We will convert our Holley 650 DP to a blow-thru carb and limit boost to 6-8 lbs. The goal is to run in the low 12's on 91 octane gas, much like it does on the N2O.
                        Love the plan. Share the details on converting the carb as you go?

                        The last converted carb I dealt with was a 44 Weber IDF with modulator rings to trick the carb into “seeing” boost referencing to fuel correctly on all stages of circuitry. The whole point was to improve on the “jet it for full boost and let the rest fall wherever and however rich it wants” theory.

                        Very interested in what the last 20 years have done to improve on modulator rings when blowing thru a carb.
                        Last edited by STINEY; October 7th, 2019, 03:08 PM.
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                          Parts arrived a day early.

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                          • Re: BBR's 83GT - turbo 302 time!

                            I really want to turbo my mustang. I will be watching very closely! I know sometimes you don't want to know but I would love it if you kept a spreadsheet of what you use.

                            The other day I was thinking would it be worth it to remove a turbo kit to pass inspection yearly.....
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                            • Re: BBR's 83GT - turbo 302 time!

                              We have no emissions testing here and this car has Antique plates so it does not have to be inspected at all.

                              I'll try to keep list of everything, but it will not be name brand stuff by any means.
                              Life is short. Be a do'er and not a shoulda done'er.
                              1983 Mustang GT 302/T5 http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...485-bbr-s-83gt
                              1973 F-250 BBF Turbo Truck http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...uck-conversion
                              1986 Ford Ranger EFI 545/C6 https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...tooth-and-nail

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                              • Re: BBR's 83GT - turbo 302 time!

                                The headers look pretty decent. Word to the wise - support the turbo. There's a tendency to assume that the turbo-to-header flange is adequate to hold the turbo's weight but with expansion and contraction of the pipes and normal vibration there's a tendency for the pipes to crack and supporting the turbo will minimize that considerably. I knew a guy who built custom turbo manifolds for (among others) Ford's experimental lab and Steve always cautioned to do the supports.

                                Dan

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