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    Superhero BangShifter
    • Apr 2011
    • 2347

    #466
    i like flipping back tot he first post too see how far this car has actually come in a relatively short time
    Originally posted by Remy-Z;n1167534
    Congratulations, man. You've just inherited the "Patron Saint of Automotive Lost Causes" from me. No question.

    75Grand AM 455:Pissed off GrandMA, 68 Volkswagen Type1 "beetle":it will run some year

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    • Thumpin455
      Legendary BangShifter
      • Jan 2010
      • 4753

      #467
      I should have started with a different car. I just shattered the brand new windshield I got for it today. I am so frustrated with this thing now, and all its little paint chips and crap that doesnt fit, I want to quit the car thing entirely. Maybe someone else should finish it, I dont know if I can take more of it being screwed up after so much work.

      $200 down the drain, at least if I had wiped my ass with two C notes I would have gotten some benefit from it.

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      • Scott Liggett
        No Life Outside BangShift.com
        • Oct 2007
        • 21561

        #468
        Originally posted by Thumpin455 View Post
        I should have started with a different car. I just shattered the brand new windshield I got for it today. I am so frustrated with this thing now, and all its little paint chips and crap that doesnt fit, I want to quit the car thing entirely. Maybe someone else should finish it, I dont know if I can take more of it being screwed up after so much work.

        $200 down the drain, at least if I had wiped my ass with two C notes I would have gotten some benefit from it.

        Just think of the fun of going back to the guy you bought it from and show him his old car.
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        • Thumpin455
          Legendary BangShifter
          • Jan 2010
          • 4753

          #469
          Stupid fargin rusty old cars. Here is the damage, didnt take much of a bump to do this either. Must have been stressed from the channel not being quite right. I am terrified to try to put the trim on the rear glass. Instead I put the weather strip around the bottoms of the doors, and yanked the exhaust manifolds from the LeMans. Maybe if I feel like it I will go pull the shifter linkage and the other stuff from the LeMans.

          I are not a happy camper.

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          • squirrel
            Benevolent Ruler of the Universe
            • Nov 2007
            • 19334

            #470
            wow, I wonder what happened?

            This one uses the butyl tape to seal the windshield, doesn't it? should be some rubber blocks to keep the glass from moving down too far, and the tape fits between the glass and metal frame. As long as the frame is close to the right shape, the glass should float and not touch anything.

            At least the rear glass is tempered (if it's original), they're a lot tougher.
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            "If it don't go, chrome it!" --Stroker McGurk

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            • SuperBuickGuy
              No Life Outside BangShift.com
              • Jan 2008
              • 32056

              #471
              did you use butyl tape or sealant (from a tube) to put the window in?
              Doing it all wrong since 1966

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              • cantvalve16
                Superhero BangShifter
                • Jan 2008
                • 1558

                #472
                I know you are a total DIY'er and I hate to say it, but have you thought about having a pro put the glass in? That way if they screw it up, the fix it free.
                Bakersfield, CA.

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                • mlcraven
                  Superhero BangShifter
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1878

                  #473
                  Okay, thanks...now I'm spooked about putting the rear glass in the Cyclone. But going to assure myself this is a Poncho issue.
                  Michael from Hampton Roads

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                  • Thumpin455
                    Legendary BangShifter
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 4753

                    #474
                    The issue is how I had to rebuild the entire window channel and had no reference how it was supposed to go. Some parts are a bit too close, and the pins that retain the trim clips got into the glass. I used urethane stuff like modern cars, primer and the works. This happened when I was doing the trim.

                    Brand new stuff is always really tight, but 45 year old stuff moves around easier so I havent ever had trouble with other cars. I have done front and rear glass on around a hundred rides, both glue in and the GM truck and Ford style with the seal. This had to be the most disheartening thing to happen to this build.

                    Its a rusty old car put together without any reference issue and it makes me sad.

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                    • SuperBuickGuy
                      No Life Outside BangShift.com
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 32056

                      #475
                      Originally posted by Thumpin455 View Post
                      The issue is how I had to rebuild the entire window channel and had no reference how it was supposed to go. Some parts are a bit too close, and the pins that retain the trim clips got into the glass. I used urethane stuff like modern cars, primer and the works. This happened when I was doing the trim.

                      Brand new stuff is always really tight, but 45 year old stuff moves around easier so I havent ever had trouble with other cars. I have done front and rear glass on around a hundred rides, both glue in and the GM truck and Ford style with the seal. This had to be the most disheartening thing to happen to this build.

                      Its a rusty old car put together without any reference issue and it makes me sad.
                      OIC.... condolences man. Still, if you think you're perfect I think there's a lake nearby that you can do a video of you walking on it. Once you've dried off, fix it and get on with it... you do nice work.
                      Doing it all wrong since 1966

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                      • squirrel
                        Benevolent Ruler of the Universe
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 19334

                        #476
                        I guess you need an old chipped scratched up windshield to test fit while you're doing the metalwork.

                        Does the urethane let the glass move around more when you're installing it? I'd think the butyl would do a better job of keeping it spaced away from the metal. But if the hole is the wrong shape, it won't give as much and could put stress on the glass.

                        can you get the broken glass out in good enough condition to use as a template?
                        My fabulous web page

                        "If it don't go, chrome it!" --Stroker McGurk

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                        • DanStokes
                          Ancient LSR Guy
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 28463

                          #477
                          First time in forever that I've had time to get into this Forum.

                          Todd - sorry about the glass. Given that you made the opening out of thin air I think you can be pretty proud of how it came out. Can your glass shop make the windshield a little smaller by sanding the edge? Doesn't look like you need a lot more clearance. I had a door glass done that way a number of years ago.

                          Dan

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                          • Thumpin455
                            Legendary BangShifter
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 4753

                            #478
                            Thanks guys. Once I pull the glass out I will whack it with a hammer! Not the glass, but the metal around it so I can shape it the right way. I will use the trim as a guide along with the glass. So I might have to repaint parts of it, but its better than not having sealed up glass in it. I have the LeMans glass, it has a crack in it on the pass side, but I would rather not pull it unless I am going to start building it. Need this one and the Mustang done first, otherwise I have to put it back in, or let it sit all winter outside with water getting in everywhere.

                            Walt stopped by today and gave me some refreshed motivation. Said he might lend me a hand so we can paint his motorcycle tank. Looking forward to some gearhead time that isnt fixing the neighbors cars and ATVs.

                            All I got done today was fixing the neighbors 4 wheeler. He wanted to do the clutch and couldnt get the nuts off holding it all together. Might go out and play with the LeMans a bit, its still high 80s and quite sticky here. The wife isnt so used to the heat, so I get distracted by a nice show from skimpy attire... Need to focus on shifters and manifolds....

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                            • Thumpin455
                              Legendary BangShifter
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 4753

                              #479
                              So Walt came by to help out, we did this today, and pulled the exhaust manifolds yesterday. Will have another project to post on later this week. This rear is going under the GTO.





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                              • JOES66FURY
                                Deputy Director Procrastination & Incompetence Dept.
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 12184

                                #480
                                man, after looking at those pics I can not tell you how much I DONT miss working on rusty cars....man, what a mess. You're a brave man.
                                If you can leave two black stripes from the exit of one corner to the braking zone of the next, you have enough horsepower. - Mark Donohue

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