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    Late last year I started thinking about something else to use as a track day car instead of the crapper Taurus SHO that I have been running for the past while. The SHO has been fun, and a good performer, considering the relatively small investment, but I found myself missing both RWD and torque.

    I had been looking at the 2011 V6 Mustangs a bit last summer, thinking that one of those as a used car in a year or two could make a fun track car, but it would still take more money than I wanted to spend for this. A bit more pondering led me back to what I know, Fox Mustangs. If I did a mild build-up, being careful not to get crazy with the engine, suspension, or brakes, I could probably put something together that would be reasonably quick, reliable, and most importantly, fun!

    Driving a friend's nicely modded Fox at the annual "Mustangs at Mosport" for a short session a few years ago reminded me how much fun these cars can be with the right mods. So a few months ago the search began in earnest for a car that would suit my needs. I was hoping for an 87 LX 5.0L hatchback, for a few reasons. First, the hatchback body style is much more practical for a track day car that is being driven to (and hopefully from) the track, even with a cage in these cars you can still load in a mounted set of tires, a tool box, some parts, and your gear and helmet bags. Secondly, an 87 would be old enough to be exempt from the biannual emissions testing here in Ontario. And thirdly, that was the year and model of my old race car that had started off as my brand new street car, almost 25 years ago now.

    But to be realistic, I had to widen my search parameters a bit, so I would have taken anything from an 86 to 89 LX hatch or GT. I had also been considering a return to wheel-to-wheel racing, but with Canada?s vintage race association, VARAC. They have a very strict no-contact rule, and are more about the fun and sportsmanship of racing than they are about a win at all costs attitude.

    This would be a nice step between the lapping days that I have been doing for the last 10 years, and the LeMons and Chumpcar races that I have competed in a few times. 1989 is the newest vehicle that is currently eligible to use in VARAC's Group 70+ category, and even then, it has to be prepared to the regulations of a race series from that time period. So that means all of the fancy stuff that has been introduced for the Fox cars in the last 10-15 years, the coilover spring kits, the torque arm rear suspension, the tubular K-members and control arms, would not be permitted if I wanted to race in that series. It would be restrictive for the build, but it would also keep me from getting carried away with the budget as well.

    So after scouting around on Craigslist and kijiji for a while, my wanted posted on a local Mustang forum netted a response. The car was about an hour north of me, sitting up on stands in the backyard of the owner's mother. The owner had bought the car from a friend minus the engine and trans as a project, but a new job in western Canada took him away before he could get much work completed. He had dropped in a low mileage longblock from a 90 LX, and started to change the car over from AOD to T5, pedals were in place already.

    I made arrangements with his cousin, also a Mustang enthusiast who still lived in the same city as his aunt, to take a look at the car. It was a black 89 GT that showed less than 100,000 km on the odometer, but it had a bit of body damage on the cowl and roof from a hood flyup incident at some point. The interior was in very good condition, unfortunately it was also the dreaded "porno red" version. People who reside in the south and western U.S. would take this for granted most of the time, but underneath the car was almost unbelievably clean. I had to think that this car had never seen in any salty Ontario winters in its life, which is getting tougher to find these days in a 20+ year old Fox.

    The previous owner had tried to sell the car last year at $1500 with no takers, which I though was a reasonable price considering the state of it, but he told me that he would take $1000 to get it out of his mother's backyard, and see it go to a good home. So I committed to the deal, and just had to be patient to wait for the snow to melt down enough so that we could extract the car from the yard. The last few weeks we've had enough decent weather in southern Ontario that the snow was pretty much gone, and this weekend promised clear, cold, but sunny weather. I made arrangements with a friend to borrow him along with his Super Duty pickup and tandem axle car trailer to get up there on Saturday afternoon to bring the car home.

    Here is the car as it looked a few years ago, the photo supplied by the previous owner:


    Loaded up on the trailer, ready to head home:


    Unloaded in the greenhouse behind the shop at home:


    The engine bay as it was:


    Left side shock tower / firewall:


    Right side shock tower / firewall:


    The porno red interior:


    Rear view, already has the Saleen style wing that I wanted to get:


    The past month I have been collecting parts for the build. The idea is to build the car as it might have been done in the late 80s / early 90s, with parts that were available at that time. If I were to make the step to run in VARAC vintage racing, the car could be presented as a Saleen Mustang, similar to the ones that ran very successfully in the SCCA Escort Endurance series through the late 80s. That will require changing the bodywork from GT to LX, which I am prepared to do later if I decide to go racing with it. The beauty of this approach, is that much of this stuff is available at very good prices on the used market, since it is not as desirable as are the more modern goodies now on the market for Fox and SN95 Mustangs. Would like it to end up looking something like this:



    Some of the pieces already on hand ...

    16 x 8 (rear) gold mesh style Saleen wheels, 4 in good shape, 2 a bit tougher:


    16 x 8 5-spoke gold Saleen wheels, 2 only:


    Set of 16 x 7 and 16 x 8 5-spoke grey Saleen wheels, will sell the pair of 7s and combine the other 2 to make a full set of 8" wheels with the gold ones ... haven't decided whether to do them all in gold or grey (probably grey):


    Maximum Motorsports revolved Bilstein front struts:


    H&R Super Race front springs, these and the Bilsteins are a bit newer than I should be using, will probably switch to Koni Yellows at some point, have an old pair for the rear sitting around from years ago:


    FRPP aluminium radiator, also a bit newer than the era of the car, but I couldn?t pass it up for $100 (which ended up being $50 at time of pickup because it was very dirty by the seller?s standards:


    Old FMS 140 mph speedo with only 60 miles on the odometer:


    Cleaned up lower intake and old school FMS 65 mm throttle body:


    FMS 1.72 E351 bolt-down roller rockers and FMS air pump eliminator pulley and bracket:


    Tilt column, will make it easier to get my older, less flexible body in and out with the race seat in place:


    Will continue with some shots of the progress that we made on Sunday ...

    Ed Nicholson - Caledon Ontario - a bit NW of Toronto
    07 Mustang GT with some stuff
    88 T-Bird Turbo Coupe 5-speed

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    Re: Starting a new project, 89 Mustang "back in the day" street / track day car

    Looks like fun, again!
    1997 Ranger 5.0L HO, GT40 heads/tubular intake, 65mm TB, 1.7rr, B303, Tri-Y headers, dual 2.5" exhaust, Flowmaster mufflers, T5 trans, Tri-Ax shifter, CenterForce Dual Friction clutch, 8.8 Traction Lok 3.55 gears, Cobra 13" front brakes, Cobra 11.65" rear discs.
    1997 Mustang GT
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    • #3
      Re: Starting a new project, 89 Mustang "back in the day" street / track day car

      So that's what the original application of the Sanden 7176 Compressor was!! I know it's a hijack but what years came with that compressor because I'm planning on using one and that line/adapter block is perfect for how I want to use it!

      Congrats on the car, looks like a nice start for a track/street car and I'm digging the theme you're headed towards with that Saleen racer.
      Central TEXAS Sleeper
      USAF Physicist

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      • #4
        Re: Starting a new project, 89 Mustang "back in the day" street / track day car

        Man I like this idea. Very nice.

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        • #5
          Re: Starting a new project, 89 Mustang "back in the day" street / track day car

          Looks like you got a good deal. What kind of shape is the motor in? It looks as though there is some surface rust on the heads as though the motor has been exposed to the aliments. Man do I miss my 85, 5.0 5 speed LX.
          Tom
          Overdrive is overrated


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          • #6
            Re: Starting a new project, 89 Mustang "back in the day" street / track day car

            nice score, if you still wanna trade those GT tails for my lx tails let me know, ill get some pics of my lx tails if you want them

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            • #7
              Re: Starting a new project, 89 Mustang "back in the day" street / track day car

              Yup, I think it was a good price, considering the excellent condition of the chassis. The engine that had been dropped was sitting for a while without the intake on, just as you see in the pics. It was supposed to have roughly 60,000 miles on it as well, so I'm hoping that it won't take much to make it a runner. We yanked it out yesterday, and got it on a stand. Going to pull the heads and oil pan off for further investigation, more pics to follow.

              I think that I have a local guy who wants to do the taillight tradeoff, which probably makes more sense to avoid shipping costs and potential damage. If that falls through I'll let you know.


              cheers
              Ed N.
              Ed Nicholson - Caledon Ontario - a bit NW of Toronto
              07 Mustang GT with some stuff
              88 T-Bird Turbo Coupe 5-speed

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              • #8
                Re: Starting a new project, 89 Mustang "back in the day" street / track day car

                Great find! did it come with a tranny? I look forward to seeing it go back together.

                http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...-consolidation
                1.54, 7.31 @ 94.14, 11.43 @ 118.95

                PB 60' 1.49
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                • #9
                  Re: Starting a new project, 89 Mustang "back in the day" street / track day car

                  Nope, no trans unfortunately, just the manual pedals swapped in, and a hole in the console where the AOD shifter was. Luckily by best friend Stu has a decent T5 collecting dust right now that I can use, just have to grab a bellhousing, separator plate, and decide on the clutch. If I end up going to race in VARAC, I will need to swap that out for a scattershield, mandatory on the V8 cars.


                  cheers
                  Ed N.
                  Ed Nicholson - Caledon Ontario - a bit NW of Toronto
                  07 Mustang GT with some stuff
                  88 T-Bird Turbo Coupe 5-speed

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                  • #10
                    Re: Starting a new project, 89 Mustang "back in the day" street / track day car

                    Very cool!

                    For the VARAC Group 70+ class, are custom parts legal? I know you mentioned that any parts need to be of the car's era but do the parts have to be off-the-shelf?

                    This looks like a lot of fun. I think I might check out the class at the Spring Classic in Mont-Tremblant, QC at the end of May.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Starting a new project, 89 Mustang "back in the day" street / track day car

                      G70+ is a pretty wide category that encompasses everything from Showroom Stock cars all the way to something like an IMSA GT car from the late 70s. The trick is that you are supposed to prepare a car to a set of rules from a specific race series from the 1973 - 1989 time period. In my case I would be choosing the SCCA Escort Endurance series rules from 1989 to prep the car to, so it should remain largely stock by that set of rules. Putting it together as a Saleen, taking a 50 lb. weight penalty compared to a regular 5.0L, allows me to run 5-lug 4-wheel disc brakes, and then I should also be able to get away with the 65mm throttle body, 1.72 rockers, 3.27 or 3.55 gears, and FMS shorty headers, since those were all pieces that came on the late 80s Saleen production cars.

                      If I do make it out for G70+, Mt. Tremblant would definitely be on my list at some point. I've crewed up there a few times in the old Firehawk series, but never have driven on it. Can't be any tougher than Mosport, right? :P


                      cheers
                      Ed N.
                      Ed Nicholson - Caledon Ontario - a bit NW of Toronto
                      07 Mustang GT with some stuff
                      88 T-Bird Turbo Coupe 5-speed

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                      • #12
                        Re: Starting a new project, 89 Mustang "back in the day" street / track day car

                        I've got a T5 bellhousing that was sold as used to me but I can't find any indication that it was ever bolted to a motor. No score marks from bolts heads, no grease, ect. I also have a brand new block plate with some light surface rust. I don't know what shipping would cost but if your desperate for one, let me know, maybe we can work something out. I want to clean house. I bought it for my 66 when I was thinking of going T5 instead of Toploader. If I go T5, I'll use an adapter plate. The problem with converting a T5 bell from a cable to mech linkage is you end up not being able to find a boot to cover the clutch fork opening.









                        Tom
                        Overdrive is overrated


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                        • #13
                          Re: Starting a new project, 89 Mustang "back in the day" street / track day car

                          So yesterday (Sunday) my friend Greg Judge, who does some Solo I and track days in a Fox, came over to check out the car, and lend a hand with some wrenching. I think that he's at least as excited about the build as I am! LOL

                          Anyway, we didn't do a whole lot, just chewed the fat for a while, discussed the plans for the car, and then decided to get the engine out and up on a stand so it could be diassembled for inspection. It had been sitting in the car for an unknown period of time with no intake in place, so who knows if any critters decided to take up residence in the cylinders, or worse.

                          The spare (86) engine that I had picked up just in case the 90 engine in the car was going to take too much work to become operational quickly:



                          Engine bay of the car as received:



                          A/C compressor and P/S pump out of the way, ready to come out:



                          The engine was just sitting on the crossmember, not bolted down, and no trans in the car, so it was quick coming out:



                          A few more detailed shots of the engine bay, look how clean that firewall and trans tunnel are:





                          Up on the stand, ready to be dug in to:



                          Even has some new urethane engine mounts ready to go:



                          Up on stands, waiting to have the suspension and brakes blown apart:





                          Super clean floor pans, already has some bolt-on frame connectors installed. Haven't decided what exactly to do with them yet, may just leave them as is for now rather than welding them, in case they are going to cause a hassle for the vintage race rules:





                          The greenhouse behind the shop where we put the car to work on it ... was a beautiful sunny day, even though it was around freezing outside, in the greenhouse we were down to shirtsleeves, almost felt like ants under a magnifying glass ... quite nice on a cool spring day actually:




                          I'll post some more up when I get the heads off the engine this week. Hopefully it is going to be useable, we'll see how it goes. I have a freshened set of E7 heads with good valvesprings coming from a guy off the Corral.


                          cheers
                          Ed N.
                          Ed Nicholson - Caledon Ontario - a bit NW of Toronto
                          07 Mustang GT with some stuff
                          88 T-Bird Turbo Coupe 5-speed

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                          • #14
                            Re: Starting a new project, 89 Mustang "back in the day" street / track day car

                            I like where this is heading..cant wait to see more
                            If you can leave two black stripes from the exit of one corner to the braking zone of the next, you have enough horsepower. - Mark Donohue

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                            • #15
                              Re: Starting a new project, 89 Mustang "back in the day" street / track day car

                              Have you tired to turn the motor over or are you waiting to see what's in side?
                              http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...-consolidation
                              1.54, 7.31 @ 94.14, 11.43 @ 118.95

                              PB 60' 1.49
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