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The story of Hotpants, the Bastard 1967 Firebird Phantom
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I can't believe you got rid of the manual drum brakes. Think of the excitement you could have every time you mash the brakes. LOL.
I applaud your tenacity on this car. What a drama.
I doubt your MSD box is your problem. They either work or don't. I didn't see the cam you purchased, but some cams are ground straight up, thus need to be advanced 4* to be peppy. Comp grinds most of their street cams with 4* advanced. Or, you could trash can the Chevy and get a pontiac for that pontiac. Just a thought.BS'er formally known as Rebeldryver
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I also doubt it's the 6AL, but it's one of the three things I *haven't* changed yet LOL. Cap, Rotor & Wires first. Then we'll get scientific. Like I might throw it out for a Pontiac :D
This iteration is a Comp XR264 hydraulic roller. The reason I tore it back down was to validate that I didn't screw the pooch on that one in a malt beverage stupor... Nope, it's straight up.Livin the dream
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That's a lot of work - and the stripes! Wow - that's a lot of work work work.
I actually like gold - does that mean I'm old or just getting ready for the champaigne gold metallic my mach1 is supposed to be?
Either way - these are great looking cars and yours is now stunning.
I have had some issues with MSD6 boxes - you can always bypass it and see if the issue goes away. Are you sure you have a full 12V going to the ignition - there's not a resistor anywhere between the ignition switch and coil / MSD?
This car is going to be amazing - sometimes it's the "powertrain match" that is elusive - sounds like you've got it right in this iteration - should be a blast to drive with the top down! Great car, great story!There's always something new to learn.
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(Truth be told I could have lived with the gold as much work as it has been)...
However, it is momma's car, and she's a blue and white gal. So, we decided to try and do something decent without going overboard.
The interior is intended to be as stock-appearing as possible with a proper console, period-correct shifter, and a true old-timey radio (if it works). The only exception will be the continuation of the Dakota Digital gauge cluster, because it's there, and I don't want to spend a grand on repro gaugues. All three cars that I have parts from the gauges are total junk, and really not worth the money to rebuild after having a couple of shops look at them.
Wish I could get a three-point belt system in it for her, but not without a rollbar, and that's not going to fly either. Oh well :D
And yes, there is a 10-ga wire going directly from the battery + to the MSD, no resistor. I again, don't really think it's the MSD, it has to be something I have completely wrong. You know the (smack hand on forehead) Doh! moment. I have had them do flaky things before also, in more than one setting. We had one one time that did the impossible. It wouldn't idle when we tried to start the feature, but after a vigorous push start, it would run above 4000 RPM, and it finished a 50-lap feature that night??? That box is still sitting on the shelf over at the race garage as far as I know. Impossible? I always thought so too.Last edited by 99_ls1; January 10, 2012, 08:48 AM.Livin the dream
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I don't remember what they're called, if I did, there'd be link.... however, there's a harness system that attaches the upper belt to the same area as the seat belts are attached in the rear seat. It hides by simply pushing it back into the crack between the seat back and base of the rear seat. It works - it's a single strap that comes from the rear seat and dividing into two harness that go over the shoulders and attach like a race harness to the lap belt. Certainly better than nothing.Doing it all wrong since 1966
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Well... Today was another lesson in take nothing for granted, the assumption makes an ass out of you and me, pick one of many.
The carbon button in the center of the MSD distributor cap was AWOL. I found fragments down in the housing below the mechanical advance once I started looking for it. The rotor was also a little chewed up from the coil trying to find a path he wanted. Once the cap and rotor (and wires for good measure) were changed, wouldn't you know it, fired right off no missing, no burping, no farting. <<smack>> Doh! there's the moment I alluded to last night.
And thanks to all who have said nice things about the car. I was focusing on trying to post it all rather than be socially correct. Thanks guys...Last edited by 99_ls1; January 10, 2012, 05:01 PM.Livin the dream
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Originally posted by JOES66FURY View Postgreat thread, love the car...I really liked the gold...does that make me weird?
The guy who did the patch work on your car musta been the same guy who did the patches on my Fury...brazed goodness as far as the eye can see,
The new work looks amazing.Livin the dream
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Originally posted by SuperBuickGuy View Postawesome carLivin the dream
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Originally posted by Scott Liggett View PostOr, you could trash can the Chevy and get a pontiac for that pontiac. Just a thought.
And you were right. Not the MSD box!
And thanks again! Your cars are cool, I've always wondered about Betty!Last edited by 99_ls1; January 10, 2012, 05:14 PM.Livin the dream
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Originally posted by milner351 View PostGreat car, great story!Livin the dream
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I prefer the Firebird over the Camaro, but the biggest drawback to a Firebird IMO is the Pontiac motor.... Even so, since the 80s Pontiac has been powered by Chevy anyway, so I really don't get the big deal. Heck, I drive a LS powered Pontiac GTO and no matter how many faults I find with the car, that motor makes me smile every time.
as for stones to do a Fiatesque (much like Kafkaesque) build, it's not so much courage as having enough builds, especially builds that go terribly wrong (mine involved a 67 SS/RS car with disk brakes and A/C) where you learn what not to do. Last weekend, I was helping my nephew fix the same mistake (same mistake different truck) I made at his age (23).... honestly, the only advantage I have over him is there wasn't the internet to publish my mistakes world wide.Last edited by SuperBuickGuy; January 10, 2012, 05:33 PM.Doing it all wrong since 1966
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Originally posted by SuperBuickGuy View PostI prefer the Firebird over the Camaro
Originally posted by SuperBuickGuy View PostEven so, since the 80s Pontiac has been powered by Chevy anyway, so I really don't get the big deal.
Originally posted by SuperBuickGuy View PostHeck, I drive a LS powered Pontiac GTO and no matter how many faults I find with the car, that motor makes me smile every time.
Originally posted by SuperBuickGuy View Posthonestly, the only advantage I have over him is there wasn't the internet to publish my mistakes world wide.
Thanks for taking the time to read y'all!Livin the dream
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